From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#12419: Mouse click changes layout Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 21:14:44 +0200 Message-ID: <50538224.1020607@gmx.at> References: <504FB55D.5030405@t-online.de> <5050432C.4060203@gmx.at><5052450F.8030001@t-online.de> <5052F242.4060303@gmx.at><83a9wsvqk6.fsf@gnu.org> <50533344.2030000@gmx.at> <1455E2776C3F46FCB324B5562F718569@us.oracle.com> <5053485E.70801@gmx.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1347650121 29692 80.91.229.3 (14 Sep 2012 19:15:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 19:15:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: occitan@esperanto.org, 12419@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 14 21:15:24 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TCbMB-00073a-Kg for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 21:15:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43702 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TCbM7-0005zK-N0 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 15:15:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:53823) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TCbM1-0005uN-RQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 15:15:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TCbM0-0005A3-Dw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 15:15:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:52859) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TCbM0-00059t-6w for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 15:15:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TCbMw-0001Rb-Qq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 15:16:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 19:16:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12419 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 12419-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12419.13476501545531 (code B ref 12419); Fri, 14 Sep 2012 19:16:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 12419) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Sep 2012 19:15:54 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34171 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TCbMn-0001RA-K6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 15:15:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([213.165.64.22]:52262) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TCbMm-0001R3-Bh for 12419@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 15:15:53 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 14 Sep 2012 19:14:52 -0000 Original-Received: from 62-47-60-224.adsl.highway.telekom.at (EHLO [62.47.60.224]) [62.47.60.224] by mail.gmx.net (mp020) with SMTP; 14 Sep 2012 21:14:52 +0200 X-Authenticated: #14592706 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18jCQl0+4AjVaP3ZWW/t93MnhLiInfWTNgAfXcrj9 RoVCUEW3OYssGI In-Reply-To: X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:64307 Archived-At: >> That all windows on the other side get resized proportionally. > > How is that different from "shrink the windows on the other side"? I'm guessing > that shrink them, but not proportionately? Yes. Shrink (or grow) the ones adjacent to an edge first. > I see. In previous releases when you drag one mode line, only the adjacent > window shrinks. And that corresponds exactly (AFAICT) to the opposite action of > dragging the mode line back again. So previously the opposite drag action was > symmetric to the initial drag action. Now it is not. > > Can we (and then should we) make this change in behavior optional (for the > user)? If you have a copy of Emacs 19 or 20 around you will notice that other windows did shrink too. The "shrink only the adjacent window" behavior you mention was introduced together with `adjust-window-trailing-edge'. But this function is not very suitable for the minibuffer. >> Now set `resize-mini-windows' to nil and drag the bottom modeline. >> All windows get resized proportionally in both directions. > > Not with a standalone minibuffer frame. At least I see no change in behavior, > whatever the value of `resize-mini-windows'. You need a "normal" frame with a minibuffer for this. > Consider proposing something for emacs-devel to discuss. Was the change in > behavior from Emacs 23 to 24 (the change made so far) ever discussed? Partially. Most of them were the results of attempting to fix errors. But I have to admit that I never understood the old code completely so I couldn't even tell what has changed and how. > Personally I don't care much, since I don't split windows that much. But this > sounds like something that affects lots of users, and perhaps there should be > some discussion about it. There should have been more testing before the release. But I wasn't very good at advertising my branch then. martin