From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: MBR Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs on Android, someone please give this developer some help Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 23:39:26 -0400 Message-ID: <5024826E.7010303@arlsoft.com> References: <874noc5evq.fsf@hfph.mwn.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020503030400020701030708" X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1344569983 17635 80.91.229.3 (10 Aug 2012 03:39:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 03:39:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Andreas Goesele Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 10 05:39:43 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Szg4b-0005Qb-BO for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Aug 2012 05:39:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58085 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Szg4a-0005ES-Dg for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Aug 2012 23:39:40 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60525) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Szg4U-0005EF-Qf for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Aug 2012 23:39:35 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Szg4T-0005Fb-6e for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Aug 2012 23:39:34 -0400 Original-Received: from omaha.hostforweb.net ([64.202.117.171]:45730) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Szg4T-0005FG-0o for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Aug 2012 23:39:33 -0400 Original-Received: from c-24-61-86-182.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ([24.61.86.182]:2873 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by omaha.hostforweb.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1Szg4Q-00080G-9W; Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:39:30 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120327 Thunderbird/11.0.1 In-Reply-To: <874noc5evq.fsf@hfph.mwn.de> X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - omaha.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - arlsoft.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-Received-From: 64.202.117.171 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:86280 Archived-At: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020503030400020701030708 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Much though I'd like to be able to run Emacs on my Android phone, I'm having difficulty imagining how input could possibly work. Emacs is heavily dependent on "chord" keystrokes. It's hard enough to type anything at all on the standard Android virtual keyboard, and that doesn't have ALT, CTRL, or SHIFT modifier keys. Would an Android Emacs include its own virtual keyboard? And even if it did, how do you type a chord on a touchscreen with keys that small? Mark On 8/9/2012 10:17 AM, Andreas Goesele wrote: > General Schvantzkoph writes: > >> For some reason there has been no Emacs on Android which is a glaring >> deficiency in the platform, even the Palm Pre had an Emacs port. Finally >> someone in Poland has started a project but it looks like he's not very >> experienced. I tried it on my Nexus 7 and it seg faults when you try and >> start it. He's just trying to do an Emacs in a terminal emulator which is >> fine, Emacs was written for terminals in the first place (I've been using >> it since ITS Emacs came out on the Dec System 20 at the end of the 1970s). >> >> If there are any Emacs developers reading this please give this guy some >> help if you can. I'm sure I'm not the only Emacs user who is desperate for >> an Emacs on Android. >> >> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zielm.emacs >> >> https://github.com/zielmicha/emacs-android > Emacs on Android would indeed be great, especially if it included the > diary and calendar! > > But gnu.emacs.help seems to be a much more active group where this call > also would be relevant - so I allow myself to cross-post, hoping to give > your call a bigger audience. > > Andreas > --------------020503030400020701030708 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Much though I'd like to be able to run Emacs on my Android phone, I'm having difficulty imagining how input could possibly work.  Emacs is heavily dependent on "chord" keystrokes. It's hard enough to type anything at all on the standard Android virtual keyboard, and that doesn't have ALT, CTRL, or SHIFT modifier keys.  Would an Android Emacs include its own virtual keyboard?  And even if it did, how do you type a chord on a touchscreen with keys that small?
Mark

On 8/9/2012 10:17 AM, Andreas Goesele wrote: 
General Schvantzkoph <schvantzkoph@yahoo.com> writes:


For some reason there has been no Emacs on Android which is a glaring 
deficiency in the platform, even the Palm Pre had an Emacs port. Finally 
someone in Poland has started a project but it looks like he's not very 
experienced. I tried it on my Nexus 7 and it seg faults when you try and 
start it. He's just trying to do an Emacs in a terminal emulator which is 
fine, Emacs was written for terminals in the first place (I've been using 
it since ITS Emacs came out on the Dec System 20 at the end of the 1970s).

If there are any Emacs developers reading this please give this guy some 
help if you can. I'm sure I'm not the only Emacs user who is desperate for 
an Emacs on Android.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zielm.emacs

https://github.com/zielmicha/emacs-android

Emacs on Android would indeed be great, especially if it included the
diary and calendar!

But gnu.emacs.help seems to be a much more active group where this call
also would be relevant - so I allow myself to cross-post, hoping to give
your call a bigger audience.

Andreas
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