From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#12008: Alphabetic sorting respect user's language and/or locale Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 11:34:53 +0200 Message-ID: <500D1ABD.40801@gmx.at> References: <500ABD92.5050104@gmx.at> <83liid14u0.fsf@gnu.org> <83boj724yn.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1343036141 781 80.91.229.3 (23 Jul 2012 09:35:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 09:35:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 12008@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 23 11:35:41 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1StF3E-0000US-Mz for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 11:35:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54071 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1StF3D-0002TP-Vg for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 05:35:39 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:49867) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1StF39-0002Sn-9i for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 05:35:39 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1StF33-0003gl-Eb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 05:35:35 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:49436) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1StF33-0003gd-Bi for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 05:35:29 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1StF9O-0004BB-7X for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 05:42:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 09:42:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12008 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 12008-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12008.134303646915982 (code B ref 12008); Mon, 23 Jul 2012 09:42:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 12008) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Jul 2012 09:41:09 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58976 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1StF8X-00049j-Au for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 05:41:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([213.165.64.23]:44437) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1StF8V-00049c-Jx for 12008@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Jul 2012 05:41:08 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 23 Jul 2012 09:34:33 -0000 Original-Received: from 62-47-50-184.adsl.highway.telekom.at (EHLO [62.47.50.184]) [62.47.50.184] by mail.gmx.net (mp001) with SMTP; 23 Jul 2012 11:34:33 +0200 X-Authenticated: #14592706 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19h3KA2XB1hZKmw/nHDi/aF2yvUIU4esq/pnJ07eI iO7WKIJ/dWtCQr In-Reply-To: <83boj724yn.fsf@gnu.org> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:62304 Archived-At: > How do you mean "independent of the system locale"? We already have > locale-independent string comparison: compare-strings, string<, etc. > By contrast, sorting strings in collation order is AFAIK inherently > locale-specific. Or am I missing something? Ideally, it should be possible to specify a locale-independent behavior. But using the locale-specific one would be already a great improvement for me. > (And btw, AFAIK Dired doesn't sort, it relies on 'ls' to do so, and > 'ls' uses 'strcoll' to sort file names. I suppose this doesn't hold for the `ls' coming with GnuWin32. > Only on MS-Windows, where we > use ls-lisp.el, do we need to collate in Lisp as part of Dired.) martin