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From: Les Harris <lharris@gnome.org>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs for new users
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:35:31 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4p4rt6-2ne.ln1@lesharris.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: e01d8a50911231056q21397ee9t2d6882ed2ad8e9aa@mail.gmail.com

Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com> writes:

> It is quite strange to not include Emacs. On the other hand it points
> to how important it is too make it easy to start using Emacs. I think
> we should have to move to adhere better to existing GUI standards (CUA
> for example, but that is a hot potato).

First let's get the tautologies out of the way: Emacs is a complex
system with many features and extreme extensibility.

With that axiom in mind I would argue that any attempt to add a veneer
of simplicity over the top is doing a disservice to would-be emacs
users.

With that said, I think a solution to the learning-emacs-in-classroom and
emacs-for-new-users problems is the same: include a .emacs which turns
on things like CUA mode to make operation more familiar.

The instructor of an emacs class is in an ideal position to do this.
For others this is something that could be easily distributed with emacs
perhaps with adding a blurb about it on the emacs splash screen.

-- 
Do they only stand
By ignorance, is that their happy state,
The proof of their obedience and their faith?





  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-23 19:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-23 16:37 Emacs for new users Per Starbäck
2009-11-23 16:59 ` Giuseppe Scrivano
2009-11-23 18:47   ` Chong Yidong
2009-11-23 20:49     ` Chong Yidong
2009-11-26 22:35       ` Beeping (was: Emacs for new users) Juri Linkov
2009-11-26 23:12         ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-27  4:12           ` bug#1305: Beeping Stefan Monnier
2009-11-27  4:12           ` Beeping Stefan Monnier
2009-11-27  6:48             ` bug#1305: Beeping Lennart Borgman
2009-11-27  6:48             ` Beeping Lennart Borgman
2009-11-27 19:25               ` Beeping Stefan Monnier
2009-11-27 20:25                 ` Beeping Lennart Borgman
2009-11-27 23:12                   ` Beeping Stefan Monnier
2009-11-27 23:15                     ` Beeping Lennart Borgman
2009-11-28  1:49                       ` Beeping Stefan Monnier
2009-11-28  2:47                         ` Beeping Lennart Borgman
2009-11-27 20:25                 ` bug#1305: Beeping Lennart Borgman
2009-11-27 19:25               ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-26 23:12         ` bug#1305: Beeping (was: Emacs for new users) Lennart Borgman
2009-11-26 22:35       ` Juri Linkov
2009-11-23 20:49     ` bug#1305: Emacs for new users Chong Yidong
2009-11-23 17:05 ` Stephen Eilert
2009-11-24 14:10   ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-24 14:43     ` Renaud Casenave-Péré
2009-11-24 16:10       ` Andreas Schwab
2009-11-25 21:01       ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-30 23:02       ` Giorgos Keramidas
2009-11-24 15:51     ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-24 16:41       ` Drew Adams
2009-11-24 17:15         ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-24 17:27           ` Chong Yidong
2009-11-24 17:35             ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-24 17:51             ` Deniz Dogan
2009-11-24 18:37               ` Chong Yidong
2009-11-24 18:03           ` Drew Adams
2009-11-24 18:06             ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-24 18:22               ` Drew Adams
2009-11-24 18:30                 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-24 19:35                   ` Drew Adams
2009-11-24 19:40                     ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-25 21:02           ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-25 21:04             ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-25 21:57             ` Fernando C.V.
2009-11-25 22:05               ` Drew Adams
2009-11-25 22:27                 ` Fernando C.V.
2009-11-25 22:34                   ` Drew Adams
2009-11-26  6:23               ` Richard Stallman
2009-11-23 18:56 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-23 19:35   ` Les Harris [this message]
2009-11-23 20:28     ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-23 21:04       ` Chong Yidong
2009-11-23 21:16         ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-23 21:56           ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-23 22:05             ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-30 22:55         ` Giorgos Keramidas
2009-11-30 23:01           ` Lennart Borgman
2009-12-01  9:13           ` Deniz Dogan
2009-12-01 10:13             ` Miles Bader
2010-11-13 19:14               ` separating CUA rectangles from CUA selection mode [was: Emacs for new users] Drew Adams
2009-11-23 21:16     ` Emacs for new users Stephen Eilert
2009-11-23 22:06       ` Per Starbäck
2009-11-23 22:43         ` Per Starbäck
2009-11-23 22:46           ` Lennart Borgman
2009-11-23 23:55           ` Sebastian Rose
2009-11-24  6:43           ` tomas

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