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From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
Subject: Re: emacs-Xtra
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 12:05:03 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4nodz4ywgg.fsf@asimov.bwh.harvard.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: umzeo1ar0.fsf@gnu.org

On 14 Apr 2006, eliz@gnu.org wrote:

>> From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>

>> By the same reasoning the FSF should not publish a two-part ELisp
>> reference manual, because half of it could be online and it's cheaper
>> to publish one book.
>
> You are driving the arguments to absurd, which doesn't help to resolve
> the issue in a reasonable way.

Sorry if it seems that way, I thought it was a sensible analogy.
Absurd would be "the FSF should not publish anything because it's
cheapest" ;)

> That's the reasoning I got from Richard, and I'll let him restate or
> revise it (in the latter case, I apologize for possible confusion).

Fair enough.  I just wanted to make sure the goal was not mistakenly
set to be one thing (smaller manual) when the FSF really wants to
accomplish another (lower costs).  Obviously RMS and you have
discussed it, and I'll defer to your knowledge of the situation and
costs.

> I hope the solution I suggested elsewhere in this thread will be
> accepted as a reasonable compromise.

I have two more suggestions:

- decrease the font size in the published manuals.  ORA books and many
  others use a noticeably smaller font, and are quite readable.

- edit the manual to shorten it, without losing content.

The latter is not too hard.  There are many sentences that could be
shortened or reworded without loss, after a cursory look through the
manual.

Ted

  reply	other threads:[~2006-04-14 16:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-04-12 21:41 emacs-Xtra Nick Roberts
2006-04-13  3:20 ` emacs-Xtra Richard Stallman
2006-04-13  4:14   ` emacs-Xtra Nick Roberts
2006-04-13  7:10     ` emacs-Xtra Nic
2006-04-13  9:02       ` emacs-Xtra Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-14  4:18       ` emacs-Xtra Richard Stallman
2006-04-14 22:21         ` emacs-Xtra Nic
2006-04-15 17:33           ` emacs-Xtra Richard Stallman
2006-04-13 18:40     ` emacs-Xtra Ted Zlatanov
2006-04-14  7:43       ` emacs-Xtra Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-14 13:39         ` emacs-Xtra Ted Zlatanov
2006-04-14 14:40           ` emacs-Xtra Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-14 16:05             ` Ted Zlatanov [this message]
2006-04-14 16:54               ` emacs-Xtra Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-15 17:32               ` emacs-Xtra Richard Stallman
2006-04-15 18:09                 ` emacs-Xtra David Kastrup
2006-04-18 15:03                 ` emacs-Xtra Ted Zlatanov
2006-04-19  4:17                   ` emacs-Xtra Richard Stallman
2006-04-19 16:34                     ` emacs doc changes (was: emacs-Xtra) Ted Zlatanov
2006-04-19 17:38                       ` emacs doc changes Ted Zlatanov
2006-04-19 17:51                       ` emacs doc changes (was: emacs-Xtra) Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-19 17:57                         ` emacs doc changes David Kastrup
2006-04-19 18:01                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2006-04-19 18:15                             ` David Kastrup
2006-04-19 18:34                               ` Giorgos Keramidas
2006-04-19 20:44                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2006-04-20  9:50                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-20  9:58                                     ` David Kastrup
2006-04-20 10:13                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-20 19:38                                         ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-20 21:09                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2006-04-27 14:42                                             ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-30 15:29                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2006-05-01  4:19                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-01 12:39                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2006-05-02  2:05                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-11 23:06                                                       ` Aaron S. Hawley
2006-04-20 10:25                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-20  1:14                           ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-20 13:43                             ` Jay Belanger
2006-04-20  9:15                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-20  9:21                             ` David Kastrup
2006-04-19 17:58                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2006-04-25 16:48                           ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-15 17:32           ` emacs-Xtra Richard Stallman
2006-04-14 16:15       ` emacs-Xtra Richard Stallman
2006-04-14  4:18     ` emacs-Xtra Richard Stallman
2006-04-13  8:28 ` emacs-Xtra Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-13 18:40   ` emacs-Xtra Glenn Morris
2006-04-14  7:35     ` emacs-Xtra Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-14  4:18   ` emacs-Xtra Richard Stallman
2006-04-14  8:16     ` emacs-Xtra Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-21 11:43     ` emacs-Xtra Eli Zaretskii
2006-04-21 21:05       ` emacs-Xtra Richard Stallman
2006-04-14  4:18   ` emacs-Xtra Richard Stallman

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