From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs setup assistants Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 09:59:27 -0400 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Sender: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Message-ID: <4n8yffl268.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <87zn847n6a.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <1438-Thu20May2004203119+0300-eliz@gnu.org> <4nd64y29zc.fsf@lifelogs.com> <2719-Fri21May2004201241+0300-eliz@gnu.org> <4nn041u050.fsf@lifelogs.com> <4n1xl9kjab.fsf@lifelogs.com> <4n1xl89xto.fsf@lifelogs.com> <9003-Wed26May2004124258+0300-eliz@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1085582271 8879 80.91.224.253 (26 May 2004 14:37:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 14:37:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org Wed May 26 16:37:43 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BSzXK-0004Qz-00 for ; Wed, 26 May 2004 16:37:42 +0200 Original-Received: from gwyn.tux.org ([199.184.165.135]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BSzXI-0007H0-00 for ; Wed, 26 May 2004 16:37:42 +0200 Original-Received: from gwyn.tux.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id i4QEXEo00337; Wed, 26 May 2004 10:33:14 -0400 Original-Received: (from turnbull@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id i4QEWGr32188 for xemacs-beta-mailman@xemacs.org; Wed, 26 May 2004 10:32:16 -0400 Original-Received: (from mail@localhost) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) id i4QEWAE32110 for turnbull@tux.org; Wed, 26 May 2004 10:32:10 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.224.249]) by gwyn.tux.org (8.11.6p2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id i4QEW8o32086 for ; Wed, 26 May 2004 10:32:08 -0400 Original-Received: from root by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BSzRu-0003XB-00 for ; Wed, 26 May 2004 16:32:06 +0200 Original-Received: from asimov.bwh.harvard.edu ([134.174.9.63]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 26 May 2004 16:32:06 +0200 Original-Received: from tzz by asimov.bwh.harvard.edu with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 26 May 2004 16:32:06 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org Original-Lines: 18 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: asimov.bwh.harvard.edu X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6;d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:gRgMmPmT06S4BSwSoIYIk1F6NPg= X-XEmacs-List: beta Errors-To: xemacs-beta-admin@xemacs.org X-BeenThere: xemacs-beta@xemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: XEmacs Beta Testers List-Unsubscribe: , Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta:14848 gmane.emacs.devel:23958 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:23958 On Wed, 26 May 2004, eliz@gnu.org wrote: >> From: Ted Zlatanov >> Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 14:16:35 -0400 >> >> Power users don't need assistants. > > I disagree. Power users don't need assistance in setting up something > that they are already power users at. But when they need to set up > something they never did before, they could use assistance. At least > I do. Power users don't need assistants so much because they know where to look (M-x apropos, etc.) - that's what I meant. It's not an absolute rule, but I think it's safe to say that assistants should not *target* power users, and if those are assisted as well, so much the better. Ted