From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: git history tracking across renames (and emacs support) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 19:46:48 +0000 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <4lh444pj.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <877etklvsa.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83y3m0pv8u.fsf@gnu.org> <86608msw0h.fsf@dod.no> <838tdiet25.fsf@gnu.org> <87y3li4vh7.fsf@telefonica.net> <87efnan46u.fsf@linux-m68k.org> <86wp12qtgo.fsf@dod.no> <83tvw6chqv.fsf@gnu.org> <86shbprix7.fsf_-_@dod.no> <838t6jgl1k.fsf@gnu.org> <601m6cc6.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83o9fefnv9.fsf@gnu.org> <415290e6-d9e8-da28-faa6-b1e7ff874246@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1531424900 18395 195.159.176.226 (12 Jul 2018 19:48:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 19:48:20 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: larsi@gnus.org, Paul Eggert , radon.neon@gmail.com, eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 12 21:48:15 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fdhZX-0004dN-E1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Jul 2018 21:48:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33772 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fdhbc-0002JY-Ho for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Jul 2018 15:50:24 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48229) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fdhYE-0000VS-EJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jul 2018 15:46:55 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fdhYB-0002Vu-GJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jul 2018 15:46:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-qt0-x230.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::230]:40048) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fdhYB-0002VH-C0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jul 2018 15:46:51 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-qt0-x230.google.com with SMTP id h4-v6so25170045qtj.7 for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2018 12:46:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lifelogs.com; s=google; h=from:to:cc:subject:organization:references:mail-copies-to:date :in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=JeSh0ifPaLSliv+pEGKolLik5LNwDqT7vguzMDiq74A=; b=l4qiCVzcXOSpTD3MWv5xIUxdzjtpXJU7rXw/X5LWIYPxxF6WmNmBdm8lyyiVE8irwY g/fu7uGqgUR5FwAFjACTJD5ON8m4fI82Zn0o+IvHD1WCtVZc/uRP/Wn2CYIP6ZNYm1M2 S9AhidOdyOsIxjUcoZwAo8bSmtglTpYQhEBPM= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:organization:references :mail-copies-to:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=JeSh0ifPaLSliv+pEGKolLik5LNwDqT7vguzMDiq74A=; b=npDFiFdsN2vaYMgs1ao9/y1Py2v3R+gSnkzY8x15F37KyINC312BSQtGllVf9olYEf 6XlMFqWDBUNntgTIxI0C5cebo/p3b49WUQGxcatMF3h+ndCaCMhBVyWJDgjQ3MlEHnCH 9rqhzDwQ9o5byktd6jOjg+9CdRgHr+AJAGA1RA2+17czuQwmx997rFzEVYyZrhzl67Md hXOaF0XTxmirch7xMUYKBRB9i2lfOuONs7uVDVcof+LBm2ZVuJAhAMLblwFIxscLs7R1 u2iati+x+zqoVBzblg4lofUOXL7zXmQYWnsYAsQs15QT+yXfMSBw8kMwytjh2u3foZ7D TegQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlFBYCUUWZVg2XeCT7mOVVgTQZan1rhTLMVwoCTvCp8IOkzG7Pt7 0uiMgwIFgFF15lxsdh08srsWpBEhBsQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpcJQd8DmiPdAiwwB95rvFRsQ1K3B0+FVEQKisO8wa5yzEFHRwPtSkDojxGXuLc7qiC1mgYmww== X-Received: by 2002:ac8:37c8:: with SMTP id e8-v6mr3279428qtc.364.1531424810520; Thu, 12 Jul 2018 12:46:50 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from flea (c-76-28-41-155.hsd1.ma.comcast.net. [76.28.41.155]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i24-v6sm20278259qti.28.2018.07.12.12.46.49 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 12 Jul 2018 12:46:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Wed, 11 Jul 2018 18:51:53 -0400") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::230 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:227296 Archived-At: On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 18:51:53 -0400 Richard Stallman wrote: RS> The issue is whether to stop including the detailed changes. I've RS> agreeds to this in principle, provided that we have tools that RS> really provide those data correctly. RS> Proponents of the change claim that some Git commands provide the RS> same data. However, I've shown that the output is incorrect in RS> certain situations. They are unusual, but not rare or absurd. RS> If you'd like this change to be made, recognize the problem and fix RS> it. Implement a kind of diff that reliably gives the correct list of RS> entities changed -- at least for C and Emacs Lisp -- and then I'll RS> agree to this change for Emacs Lisp. Could you provide a reference to the previous discussion or summarize it? I couldn't find it. Ted