From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?Cl=c3=a9ment_Pit--Claudel?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Development suggestions from an ENSIME developer Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 09:50:01 -0400 Message-ID: <4fabc97e-b5db-06ba-347b-72bbfa47ed8b@gmail.com> References: <46f603db-cf91-495d-d330-87b3538b7872@gmail.com> <87oa5pnvam.fsf@cochranmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HB98oxHisDIp2BJWKt4Exvi1qC4tP5ggs" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1469281868 24639 80.91.229.3 (23 Jul 2016 13:51:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 13:51:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Robert Cochran Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 23 15:50:59 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bQxKS-0006xL-7h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 23 Jul 2016 15:50:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52204 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bQxKQ-0002ZI-W4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 23 Jul 2016 09:50:55 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38056) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bQxJn-0002Yw-CZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Jul 2016 09:50:16 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bQxJj-000188-8P for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Jul 2016 09:50:14 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.130]:65464) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bQxJi-00017e-Tq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Jul 2016 09:50:11 -0400 Original-Received: from [172.17.11.203] ([162.223.5.123]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue004) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MC5LA-1bZil30HOC-008sjk; Sat, 23 Jul 2016 15:50:05 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 In-Reply-To: <87oa5pnvam.fsf@cochranmail.com> X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:7lsWuRWCidnpBO5nMPLP8T1m2MaNo/hYchA6UCKHZ3fG0pc9r4U oyexQD7ZNmWiL8qDjlQFSODwC6uQKsW24Q+Tzffov7sb0Z9qocZDX4K9LdvMnNxB9sG5B1P Be3SZAj04q7fzK+5pk/f0h818DrHTduAiP5HigfOntCxrjWWxS6kisTULkFSTfiDga9eOs0 43aqYij7vBqcmWuTqRqGw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:PnvWEvz/98U=:y8bwykHGZKkwdOFwS2Y6Md Zo3oavsMPzXBIZxWpgMT9AvunlkFiLjWquH/Jd/93QtEY1ZwwFJx2h9oKjBpjpZK8+jj/UHTc DO2oND0UMAPUbVpTnfGuoxtPBW5tR/xMpJDYINZLc0pQzi7p4ZzqVfxL6helUIOHPTi7Iubt+ mw7K1vncy0WS6fBc/TXYWATwuCretSbahf9UbdkMQRVzO0hNE+Q3Kp/0zA36DTjlS018Jix6i V1CkH6PtkobTcKE64nUyCPllLklx8SPN3QrsyV1G3dTv2zQ8rEXuUyrlOtODV2U8YpHrmZQO2 rsdQUuJgotmp6eJAKiKnafVN2INquijxJgDH6spHrF7KIsl5RAKObsTbgLk/wJHOr6Kuw6MSN xipBhAUXR6USpiMb4fi3ufsdY2yX+VMALhTx6QfOB5TNgNRsWwfrClO3XPoBYl0Low3dNyrsT j0vb2vHXqaPcPlsEOS+lxnAqc8nZ2TvV9hj+5ReF/nm/Z6OU3bYNTwo3wIFNnde40vRgYcSXA qAPM8V8BzombUA3YBxeHkVR6ErzNcDB+JsBPzOj1wXH0iCCByRl7oYHQ4vkf5jeuxX7Bq1s/Y QcgIKuYPXbvlIcp5mLYrlrHEyJoRBtlSwFvOboMpOxxgjDB6NQ3HZAPcJHC5memGzmqVLMTaw xRtJ+MSX96gbPDnX9IM5ihfTv5tdb46ePn78rQmRFo4FG9TZ81Q1RaXKv3Zhlteo2YUo= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.126.130 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:206066 Archived-At: This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --HB98oxHisDIp2BJWKt4Exvi1qC4tP5ggs Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="6Bc2TVVwtnhdIsOBaJctpkxf5gd195TmB" From: =?UTF-8?Q?Cl=c3=a9ment_Pit--Claudel?= To: Robert Cochran Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Message-ID: <4fabc97e-b5db-06ba-347b-72bbfa47ed8b@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Development suggestions from an ENSIME developer References: <46f603db-cf91-495d-d330-87b3538b7872@gmail.com> <87oa5pnvam.fsf@cochranmail.com> In-Reply-To: <87oa5pnvam.fsf@cochranmail.com> --6Bc2TVVwtnhdIsOBaJctpkxf5gd195TmB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2016-07-22 18:48, Robert Cochran wrote: >>> I for one would welcome a code of conduct :) These things tend to >>> send an explicit positive message, and there are virtually no >>> downsides to having one. >=20 > I disagree. >=20 > When I think 'Code of Conduct', I inevitably think of the Social > Justice Warriors. I think very lowly of the SJWs Thanks for sharing your opinion. If this is the only downside, I still s= tand by "virtually no downsides". We have two groups of people: one that feels unsafe in some online commun= ities, and which we might make more comfortable by explicitly stating tha= t contributors should behave nicely to each other (which, as has been poi= nted out, is not asking much: this mailing list is rather civil already).= Another one that feels upset about such a document, based on vaguely ac= cusatory inferences about who might have suggested the introduction of sa= id document =E2=80=94 although it doesn't affect them personally in any w= ay. > and I'm always set on edge, at least a little, when I see that a > project has adopted a CoC. That tends to be an indicator that the > SJWs have infected a project. Conversely, I'm set on the edge when I see someone refer to "Social Justi= ce Warriors", especially in the context of adopting a Code of Conduct :) Cheers, Cl=C3=A9ment. --6Bc2TVVwtnhdIsOBaJctpkxf5gd195TmB-- --HB98oxHisDIp2BJWKt4Exvi1qC4tP5ggs Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJXk3YJAAoJEPqg+cTm90wj+NsP/29yK93Ny/HaKPzfUPdmZZIX 2P8TBPAQ3PtrHx6Hjg9Z6gt96BjRcB7z6WoItP7OSsKtg0gNrb4eA5Gp9O3RXzSG DphdSvJ//ImZGiJlAbjclbPOb7NqyVQZmUyK16RQShaUlYa+xBNGiOkWb+DevqfH J1593p4XDsnsplC01hIMeGxPftV0PSKWpPyM5y3It53FQiKBn1OT99PXoxZ0/9GR dcLlRYKPAF1PbWn3NvOJ0OwiKxqGcBmnAVfh/B91u09qCEvsUaEyBXscUb8G3f+3 DCaBuFND2aH49SF8NxDbR3ThQKLTIMT9zb7Q4RBserpzhbRv6NK+VhcE7gWTprDp DfLhK7giRdsS+zGRMdWRY1iYJAAKpvEZ9wxfQnz7JfLzkNEck/v0y8/vXuggvrfT jYrmzYm17m06k/A/q9fjx0cqlL7xw8FTR+QlRVkUubv8g2aruiUHiRTvkxM2vWPm FNkR2G0W2GrqJBaprxAPSY3pqIGiu6tLRQflnteAQiXiQah1qpDr6uo2zSTjNgbL E1ucS/pWHnkV68bQV71OcTbZDg9hLl21wRLZcf/hH948Op01xHHKm8D4Oj+76uvx 6dm+Qt6rbnOAXgg+uS+YGJzBFVETE68cKDp020Zoe6Q37RoEHMaKZzAZ+bNuUdbE SgF66Mdv2lPgAVvd+isk =FlTJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HB98oxHisDIp2BJWKt4Exvi1qC4tP5ggs--