* How do you scroll the screen without moving the cursor ? (the C-E and C-Y keys in vi)
@ 2008-10-02 22:11 David Lam
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From: David Lam @ 2008-10-02 22:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
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mmm i am definitely an emacs noob
i saw this... http://www.wlindley.com/gnu/vi and in the first two rows
theres no listed equivalent
theres gotta be some binding or some way to do it i figure though right?
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* Re: How do you scroll the screen without moving the cursor ? (the C-E and C-Y keys in vi)
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@ 2008-10-03 5:46 ` Livin Stephen
2008-10-03 6:42 ` zoltan
2008-10-04 21:11 ` Rodolfo Medina
2008-10-10 21:49 ` Joe Casadonte
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From: Livin Stephen @ 2008-10-03 5:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
On Oct 3, 3:11 am, "David Lam" <david.k.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
>...
> i saw this...http://www.wlindley.com/gnu/vi and in the first two rows
> theres no listed equivalent
> ...
David,
C-v is how you scroll one-page-at-a-time, so with numerical arguments
( "C-u 1" [ or "Cu -1" ] ),
here is how I would do it:
C-u 1 C-v for "up", and
C-u -1 C-v for "down" .
I don't know *any* lisp,
so if I found myself wanting to do this a lot,
I would probably create a macro and setup a key-binding.
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* Re: How do you scroll the screen without moving the cursor ? (the C-E and C-Y keys in vi)
2008-10-03 5:46 ` Livin Stephen
@ 2008-10-03 6:42 ` zoltan
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From: zoltan @ 2008-10-03 6:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
On Oct 3, 7:46 am, Livin Stephen <livin.step...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 3, 3:11 am, "David Lam" <david.k.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >...
> > i saw this...http://www.wlindley.com/gnu/vi and in the first two rows
> > theres no listed equivalent
> > ...
>
> David,
> C-v is how you scroll one-page-at-a-time, so with numerical arguments
> ( "C-u 1" [ or "Cu -1" ] ),
> here is how I would do it:
>
> C-u 1 C-v for "up", and
> C-u -1 C-v for "down" .
>
> I don't know *any* lisp,
> so if I found myself wanting to do this a lot,
> I would probably create a macro and setup a key-binding.
You can also use M-v to scroll up.
And C-M-v to scroll down the next buffer
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* Re: How do you scroll the screen without moving the cursor ? (the C-E and C-Y keys in vi)
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2008-10-03 5:46 ` Livin Stephen
@ 2008-10-04 21:11 ` Rodolfo Medina
2008-10-04 22:58 ` Rupert Swarbrick
2008-10-10 21:49 ` Joe Casadonte
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From: Rodolfo Medina @ 2008-10-04 21:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
...how do you scroll the screen without moving point, also in the sense that
you do, say, five times C-v and then five times M-v and find the cursor in the
*same* place as it was before the first C-v...?
I found two packages that do that: pager.el and scroll-in-place.el, but the
side unwished effect is that the `next-screen-context-lines' stops working
properly in TeX and info buffers: you don't have any more the two default lines
of continuity when scrolling by screenfuls, but less, and variable.
Anyone met the same problem?
Rodolfo
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* Re: How do you scroll the screen without moving the cursor ? (the C-E and C-Y keys in vi)
2008-10-04 21:11 ` Rodolfo Medina
@ 2008-10-04 22:58 ` Rupert Swarbrick
2008-10-05 10:48 ` Rodolfo Medina
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From: Rupert Swarbrick @ 2008-10-04 22:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> writes:
> ...how do you scroll the screen without moving point, also in the
> sense that you do, say, five times C-v and then five times M-v and
> find the cursor in the *same* place as it was before the first C-v...?
>
I'm afraid I don't actually know the answer to this question (although
I'm sure there will be one). I was also slightly suprised when reading
it that this had never irritated me.
But then I realised what I do: Before starting to scroll, I hit C-Space
to set a mark. Then I wander round the file to my hearts content, not
even necessarily returning to where I started before hitting C-u C-Space
and being back and with point "unmoved".
Maybe this is a useful different way of solving your problem.
Rupert
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* Re: How do you scroll the screen without moving the cursor ? (the C-E and C-Y keys in vi)
2008-10-04 22:58 ` Rupert Swarbrick
@ 2008-10-05 10:48 ` Rodolfo Medina
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From: Rodolfo Medina @ 2008-10-05 10:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
Rodolfo Medina <rodolfo.medina@gmail.com> writes:
> ...how do you scroll the screen without moving point, also in the sense that
> you do, say, five times C-v and then five times M-v and find the cursor in the
> *same* place as it was before the first C-v...?
>
> I found two packages that do that: pager.el and scroll-in-place.el, but the
> side unwished effect is that the `next-screen-context-lines' stops working
> properly in TeX and info buffers: you don't have any more the two default
> lines of continuity when scrolling by screenfuls, but less, and variable.
>
> Anyone met the same problem?
Rupert Swarbrick <rswarbrick@gmail.com> writes:
> I'm afraid I don't actually know the answer to this question (although
> I'm sure there will be one). I was also slightly suprised when reading
> it that this had never irritated me.
>
> But then I realised what I do: Before starting to scroll, I hit C-Space
> to set a mark. Then I wander round the file to my hearts content, not
> even necessarily returning to where I started before hitting C-u C-Space
> and being back and with point "unmoved".
>
> Maybe this is a useful different way of solving your problem.
Hey, that's great! Thanks
Rodolfo
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* Re: How do you scroll the screen without moving the cursor ? (the C-E and C-Y keys in vi)
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2008-10-03 5:46 ` Livin Stephen
2008-10-04 21:11 ` Rodolfo Medina
@ 2008-10-10 21:49 ` Joe Casadonte
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From: Joe Casadonte @ 2008-10-10 21:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: help-gnu-emacs
I wrote these years ago; maybe they will help?
(defun scroll-in-place (scroll-up)
"Scroll window up (or down) without moving point (if possible).
SCROLL-Up is non-nil to scroll up one line, nil to scroll down."
(interactive)
(let ((pos (point))
(col (current-column))
(up-or-down (if scroll-up 1 -1)))
(scroll-up up-or-down)
(if (pos-visible-in-window-p pos)
(goto-char pos)
(if (or (eq last-command 'next-line)
(eq last-command 'previous-line))
(move-to-column temporary-goal-column)
(move-to-column col)
(setq temporary-goal-column col))
(setq this-command 'next-line))))
;;;; ------------------------------------------------------------------------
(defun scroll-up-in-place ()
"Scroll window up without moving point (if possible)."
(interactive)
(scroll-in-place t))
;;;; ------------------------------------------------------------------------
(defun scroll-down-in-place ()
"Scroll window up without moving point (if possible)."
(interactive)
(scroll-in-place nil))
(global-set-key (read-kbd-macro "M-<down>") 'scroll-up-in-place)
(global-set-key (read-kbd-macro "M-<up>") 'scroll-down-in-place)
--
Regards,
joe
Joe Casadonte
jcasadonte@northbound-train.com
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