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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:258227 Archived-At: > > But what does this have to do with coding > > conventions? (Let alone why would such usage be > > "banned".) >=20 > > This is on the order of helpful tips, not coding > > conventions, IMO. >=20 > For users, it should be a tip. > However, we might want to insist on this for code in Emacs, GNU ELPA > or NonGNU ELPA when we have that. Yes, that was my thought exactly. Thanks for stating it plainly. The coding conventions in the manual serve a double purpose. Things mentioned there are (1) pretty much mandatory for inclusion in Emacs and (2) recommendations for other Elisp code (e.g. user/3rd-party).