From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Uday Reddy Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How to configure for smtps protocol Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 11:07:44 +0000 Organization: SunSITE.dk - Supporting Open source Message-ID: <4eec7801$0$283$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1324149236 17798 80.91.229.12 (17 Dec 2011 19:13:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 19:13:56 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 17 20:13:50 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Rbzhe-00011e-FK for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 20:13:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46173 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RbzhY-0003qJ-JQ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 14:13:44 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:53690) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RbsTp-0002OK-O7 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 06:31:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RbsTo-0004Zl-KV for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 06:31:05 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:42390) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RbsTo-0004Zh-Fb for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 06:31:04 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:59997) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RbsTo-0004nQ-04 for gnu-emacs-help@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 06:31:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RbsTm-0004ZP-GT for gnu-emacs-help@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 06:31:03 -0500 Original-Received: from sun60.bham.ac.uk ([147.188.128.137]:62799) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RbsTm-0004ZH-BM for gnu-emacs-help@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 06:31:02 -0500 Original-Received: from [147.188.128.127] (helo=bham.ac.uk) by sun60.bham.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RbsTk-00010P-OF for gnu-emacs-help@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 11:31:00 +0000 Original-Received: from mx1.cs.bham.ac.uk ([147.188.192.53]) by bham.ac.uk (envelope-from ) with esmtp (Exim 4.72) id 1RbsTk-0002Vm-EZ for gnu-emacs-help@gnu.org using interface smart1.bham.ac.uk; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 11:31:00 +0000 Original-Received: from gromit.cs.bham.ac.uk ([147.188.193.16] helo=MARUTI.cs.bham.ac.uk) by mx1.cs.bham.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1RbsTk-00006h-00 for gnu-emacs-help@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Dec 2011 11:31:00 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: <20204.32114.781000.20494@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Resent-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 11:30:58 +0000 Resent-From: Uday S Reddy Resent-To: gnu-emacs-help@gnu.org Original-Path: news.sunsite.dk!dotsrc.org!filter.dotsrc.org!news.dotsrc.org!not-for-mail User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 Original-Lines: 47 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 77.100.10.241 Original-X-Trace: news.sunsite.dk DXC=M:MA6aFnV2AlZiKmBn9NRLYSB=nbEKnkKdX9415PI\SE>aj5FbX_jQJ5KTJ`5jhKBEodh3G[o=:SDFZ]VJN4GlMLTEU; \e4W^5E?DnJl7^Pb6O Original-X-Complaints-To: staff@sunsite.dk Original-Xref: news.sunsite.dk gnu.emacs.help:146684 Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 10 (beta) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.10 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 14:13:37 -0500 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:83215 Archived-At: On 12/13/2011 8:41 PM, Alan wrote: > > There is a clue from reading in the VM Info manual (in my case, > version 8.1), about the POP servers. It says: > > "For SSL, you must have the stunnel program installed and the variable > `vm-stunnel-program' must name it in order for POP over SSL to work. > The default value of this variable, `"stunnel"', should be sufficient > if the program is installed in your normal command search path." This is an unfortunate confusion. In the old days, when VM was designed, people knew the difference between mail readers and mail senders (even though mail readers always provided links to the mail senders in order to reply to messages). Nowadays the distinction between mail readers and mail senders is less well recognized. The point here is that VM is a mail reader, not a mail sender. The VM Info manual that you quoted above is talking about the mail reader. On the other hand, Rene is facing issues with the mail sender, in particular the smtpmail package, which is part of Gnu Emacs. The "Emacs SMTP Library" manual, distributed with Gnu Emacs, is in fact the best source of information. The manual says: `smtpmail-starttls-credentials' The variable `smtpmail-starttls-credentials' contains a list of tuples with hostname, port, name of file containing client key, and name of file containing client certificate. The processing is similar to the previous variable. The client key and certificate may be `nil' if you do not wish to use client authentication. Rene has set this variable to `nil', meaning he doesn't wish to use "client authentication". Is that the right thing to do? (Why the protocols people can't write text that mere mortals can understand is always a question for me.) The EmacsWiki page on GnusGmail, http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/GnusGmail, is also a good source of information. If somebody can write a page like this for VM, the VM users would be quite grateful! Cheers, Uday