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* Emacs 23.0.92 pretest
@ 2009-03-31  2:49 Chong Yidong
  2009-03-31 11:49 ` Jason Rumney
                   ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: Chong Yidong @ 2009-03-31  2:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-devel

Emacs pretest 23.0.92 is now available; this is the third pretest for
what will be the Emacs 23.1 release.  You can download it via FTP, at
the following location:

  http://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/emacs-23.0.92.tar.gz

The xdelta against the previous pretest, 23.0.91, is here:

  http://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/emacs-23.0.91-23.0.92.xdelta

Pretesters: please send an email to me reporting success or failure on
your build platform.  In addition, please report bugs via M-x
report-emacs-bugs, or send an email to emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org.  For
questions, please email emacs-devel@gnu.org.

Thank you.




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* Re: Emacs 23.0.92 pretest
  2009-03-31  2:49 Emacs 23.0.92 pretest Chong Yidong
@ 2009-03-31 11:49 ` Jason Rumney
  2009-04-02 20:18   ` [h-e-w] " Ugly Me
  2009-03-31 12:24 ` Neal Becker
  2009-04-02 16:20 ` David Robinow
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 25+ messages in thread
From: Jason Rumney @ 2009-03-31 11:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Chong Yidong; +Cc: help-emacs-windows@gnu.org, emacs-devel

Chong Yidong wrote:
> Emacs pretest 23.0.92 is now available; this is the third pretest for
> what will be the Emacs 23.1 release.  You can download it via FTP, at
> the following location:
>
>   http://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/emacs-23.0.92.tar.gz
>
> The xdelta against the previous pretest, 23.0.91, is here:
>
>   http://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/emacs-23.0.91-23.0.92.xdelta
>
> Pretesters: please send an email to me reporting success or failure on
> your build platform.  In addition, please report bugs via M-x
> report-emacs-bugs, or send an email to emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org.  For
> questions, please email emacs-devel@gnu.org.
>
> Thank you.
>   

Windows binaries built OK, and have been uploaded to:

  http://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/windows/






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* Re: Emacs 23.0.92 pretest
  2009-03-31  2:49 Emacs 23.0.92 pretest Chong Yidong
  2009-03-31 11:49 ` Jason Rumney
@ 2009-03-31 12:24 ` Neal Becker
  2009-03-31 13:42   ` Chong Yidong
  2009-04-02 16:20 ` David Robinow
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 25+ messages in thread
From: Neal Becker @ 2009-03-31 12:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-devel

Chong Yidong wrote:

> Emacs pretest 23.0.92 is now available; this is the third pretest for
> what will be the Emacs 23.1 release.  You can download it via FTP, at
> the following location:
> 
>   http://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/emacs-23.0.92.tar.gz
> 
> The xdelta against the previous pretest, 23.0.91, is here:
> 
>   http://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/emacs-23.0.91-23.0.92.xdelta
> 
> Pretesters: please send an email to me reporting success or failure on
> your build platform.  In addition, please report bugs via M-x
> report-emacs-bugs, or send an email to emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org.  For
> questions, please email emacs-devel@gnu.org.
> 
> Thank you.

Still has mktime bug!  There was a patch for this sent to this list.






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* Re: Emacs 23.0.92 pretest
  2009-03-31 12:24 ` Neal Becker
@ 2009-03-31 13:42   ` Chong Yidong
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: Chong Yidong @ 2009-03-31 13:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Neal Becker; +Cc: emacs-devel

Neal Becker <ndbecker2@gmail.com> writes:

> Still has mktime bug!  There was a patch for this sent to this list.

Strange, the unpatched configure got into the tarball for some reason.
I'll look into it.




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* Re: Emacs 23.0.92 pretest
@ 2009-04-01  0:54 Mikko Huhtala
  2009-04-01 13:03 ` Neal Becker
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 25+ messages in thread
From: Mikko Huhtala @ 2009-04-01  0:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-devel


Builds without errors on Fedora 11 Beta on i686.

    gcc-4.4.0-0.31.i586
    glibc-2.9.90-11.i686
    libX11-1.2-3.fc11.i586
    libXft-2.1.13-2.fc11.i586
    freetype-2.3.9-3.fc11.i586
    gtk2-2.16.0-1.fc11.i586

The mktime timeout is still there.





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* Re: Emacs 23.0.92 pretest
  2009-04-01  0:54 Mikko Huhtala
@ 2009-04-01 13:03 ` Neal Becker
  2009-04-02  1:01   ` Kenichi Handa
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 25+ messages in thread
From: Neal Becker @ 2009-04-01 13:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-devel

Mikko Huhtala wrote:

> 
> Builds without errors on Fedora 11 Beta on i686.
> 
>     gcc-4.4.0-0.31.i586
>     glibc-2.9.90-11.i686
>     libX11-1.2-3.fc11.i586
>     libXft-2.1.13-2.fc11.i586
>     freetype-2.3.9-3.fc11.i586
>     gtk2-2.16.0-1.fc11.i586
> 
> The mktime timeout is still there.

Don't forget libotf!  I maintain that for fedora specifically to support 
emacs.






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* Re: Emacs 23.0.92 pretest
  2009-04-01 13:03 ` Neal Becker
@ 2009-04-02  1:01   ` Kenichi Handa
  2009-04-02  1:19     ` Neal Becker
                       ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: Kenichi Handa @ 2009-04-02  1:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Neal Becker; +Cc: emacs-devel

In article <gqvon1$di6$3@ger.gmane.org>, Neal Becker <ndbecker2@gmail.com> writes:

> Mikko Huhtala wrote:
> > 
> > Builds without errors on Fedora 11 Beta on i686.
> > 
> >     gcc-4.4.0-0.31.i586
> >     glibc-2.9.90-11.i686
> >     libX11-1.2-3.fc11.i586
> >     libXft-2.1.13-2.fc11.i586
> >     freetype-2.3.9-3.fc11.i586
> >     gtk2-2.16.0-1.fc11.i586
> > 
> > The mktime timeout is still there.

> Don't forget libotf!  I maintain that for fedora specifically to support 
> emacs.

m17n-flt is necessary too to utilize libotf for Complex Text
Layout.

---
Kenichi Handa
handa@m17n.org




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* Re: Emacs 23.0.92 pretest
  2009-04-02  1:01   ` Kenichi Handa
@ 2009-04-02  1:19     ` Neal Becker
  2009-04-02  1:49       ` Kenichi Handa
  2009-04-02  3:18     ` Eli Zaretskii
  2009-04-02  5:57     ` Giorgos Keramidas
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 25+ messages in thread
From: Neal Becker @ 2009-04-02  1:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-devel

Kenichi Handa wrote:

> In article <gqvon1$di6$3@ger.gmane.org>, Neal Becker <ndbecker2@gmail.com>
> writes:
> 
>> Mikko Huhtala wrote:
>> > 
>> > Builds without errors on Fedora 11 Beta on i686.
>> > 
>> >     gcc-4.4.0-0.31.i586
>> >     glibc-2.9.90-11.i686
>> >     libX11-1.2-3.fc11.i586
>> >     libXft-2.1.13-2.fc11.i586
>> >     freetype-2.3.9-3.fc11.i586
>> >     gtk2-2.16.0-1.fc11.i586
>> > 
>> > The mktime timeout is still there.
> 
>> Don't forget libotf!  I maintain that for fedora specifically to support
>> emacs.
> 
> m17n-flt is necessary too to utilize libotf for Complex Text
> Layout.
> 

I'm using m17n-lib-devel package on fedora.  I assume that is sufficient?






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* Re: Emacs 23.0.92 pretest
  2009-04-02  1:19     ` Neal Becker
@ 2009-04-02  1:49       ` Kenichi Handa
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: Kenichi Handa @ 2009-04-02  1:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Neal Becker; +Cc: emacs-devel

In article <gr13rf$4sh$1@ger.gmane.org>, Neal Becker <ndbecker2@gmail.com> writes:

>>> Don't forget libotf!  I maintain that for fedora specifically to support
emacs.
> > 
> > m17n-flt is necessary too to utilize libotf for Complex Text
> > Layout.
> > 

> I'm using m17n-lib-devel package on fedora.  I assume that is sufficient?

Ah, yes, libm17n-flt should be included in that package.

---
Kenichi Handa
handa@m17n.org




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* Re: Emacs 23.0.92 pretest
  2009-04-02  1:01   ` Kenichi Handa
  2009-04-02  1:19     ` Neal Becker
@ 2009-04-02  3:18     ` Eli Zaretskii
  2009-04-02  3:38       ` Kenichi Handa
  2009-04-02  5:57     ` Giorgos Keramidas
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 25+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2009-04-02  3:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Kenichi Handa; +Cc: ndbecker2, emacs-devel

> From: Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>
> Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 10:01:11 +0900
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> In article <gqvon1$di6$3@ger.gmane.org>, Neal Becker <ndbecker2@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > Mikko Huhtala wrote:
> > > 
> > > Builds without errors on Fedora 11 Beta on i686.
> > > 
> > >     gcc-4.4.0-0.31.i586
> > >     glibc-2.9.90-11.i686
> > >     libX11-1.2-3.fc11.i586
> > >     libXft-2.1.13-2.fc11.i586
> > >     freetype-2.3.9-3.fc11.i586
> > >     gtk2-2.16.0-1.fc11.i586
> > > 
> > > The mktime timeout is still there.
> 
> > Don't forget libotf!  I maintain that for fedora specifically to support 
> > emacs.
> 
> m17n-flt is necessary too to utilize libotf for Complex Text
> Layout.

That should be probably mentioned in INSTALL.




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* Re: Emacs 23.0.92 pretest
  2009-04-02  3:18     ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2009-04-02  3:38       ` Kenichi Handa
  2009-04-02 19:32         ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 25+ messages in thread
From: Kenichi Handa @ 2009-04-02  3:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: ndbecker2, emacs-devel

In article <u63hnkajg.fsf@gnu.org>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

> > From: Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>
> > Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 10:01:11 +0900
> > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
[...]
> > > Don't forget libotf!  I maintain that for fedora specifically to support 
> > > emacs.
> > 
> > m17n-flt is necessary too to utilize libotf for Complex Text
> > Layout.

> That should be probably mentioned in INSTALL.

Current INSTALL has this section.  What should be added?

------------------------------------------------------------
* Complex Text Layout support libraries

Emacs needs the optional libraries "m17n-db", "libm17n-flt", "libotf"
to correctly display such complex scripts as Indic and Khmer.
On some systems, particularly GNU/Linux, these libraries may be
already present or available as additional packages.  Note that if
there is a separate `dev' or `devel' package, for use at compilation
time rather than run time, you will need that as well as the
corresponding run time package; typically the dev package will contain
header files and a library archive.  Otherwise, you can download and
build libraries from sources.

The sources of these libraries are available by anonymous CVS from
cvs.m17n.org.

    % cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.m17n.org:/cvs/m17n login
    % cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.m17n.org:/cvs/m17n co m17n-db
    % cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.m17n.org:/cvs/m17n co m17n-lib
    % cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.m17n.org:/cvs/m17n co libotf

For m17n-lib, if you have problems with making the whole package
because you lack some other packages on which m17n-lib depends, try to
configure it with the option "--without-gui".
------------------------------------------------------------

---
Kenichi Handa
handa@m17n.org




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* Re: Emacs 23.0.92 pretest
  2009-04-02  1:01   ` Kenichi Handa
  2009-04-02  1:19     ` Neal Becker
  2009-04-02  3:18     ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2009-04-02  5:57     ` Giorgos Keramidas
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: Giorgos Keramidas @ 2009-04-02  5:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Kenichi Handa; +Cc: Neal Becker, emacs-devel

On Thu, 02 Apr 2009 10:01:11 +0900, Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org> wrote:
> m17n-flt is necessary too to utilize libotf for Complex Text
> Layout.

I've updated the FreeBSD port of 'emacs-devel' to use the new pretest:

  http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=133294

It should be soon available through the normal Ports tree, after it
passes review and is committed to CVS :)





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* Re: Emacs 23.0.92 pretest
  2009-03-31  2:49 Emacs 23.0.92 pretest Chong Yidong
  2009-03-31 11:49 ` Jason Rumney
  2009-03-31 12:24 ` Neal Becker
@ 2009-04-02 16:20 ` David Robinow
  2009-04-02 19:28   ` Eli Zaretskii
  2009-04-06 14:54   ` Jason Rumney
  2 siblings, 2 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: David Robinow @ 2009-04-02 16:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Chong Yidong; +Cc: emacs-devel

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:49 PM, Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com> wrote:
> Emacs pretest 23.0.92 is now available; this is the third pretest for
> what will be the Emacs 23.1 release.  You can download it via FTP, at
> the following location:
>
>  http://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/emacs-23.0.92.tar.gz
>
> The xdelta against the previous pretest, 23.0.91, is here:
>
>  http://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/emacs-23.0.91-23.0.92.xdelta
>
> Pretesters: please send an email to me reporting success or failure on
> your build platform.  In addition, please report bugs via M-x
> report-emacs-bugs, or send an email to emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org.  For
> questions, please email emacs-devel@gnu.org.
>
> Thank you.
Fails on MSVC:

frame.c
frame.c(3283) : warning C4047: '=' : 'Lisp_Object' differs in levels
of indirection from 'Window'
frame.c(3430) : error C2275: 'Lisp_Object' : illegal use of this type
as an expression
        c:\home\emacs-23.0.92\src\lisp.h(315) : see declaration of 'Lisp_Object'
frame.c(3430) : error C2146: syntax error : missing ';' before identifier 'lval'
frame.c(3430) : error C2144: syntax error : '<Unknown>' should be
preceded by '<Unknown>'
frame.c(3430) : error C2144: syntax error : '<Unknown>' should be
preceded by '<Unknown>'
frame.c(3430) : error C2143: syntax error : missing ';' before 'identifier'
frame.c(3430) : error C2065: 'lval' : undeclared identifier




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* Re: Emacs 23.0.92 pretest
  2009-04-02 16:20 ` David Robinow
@ 2009-04-02 19:28   ` Eli Zaretskii
  2009-04-02 21:53     ` David Robinow
  2009-04-06 14:54   ` Jason Rumney
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 25+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2009-04-02 19:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: David Robinow; +Cc: cyd, emacs-devel

> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 12:20:02 -0400
> From: David Robinow <drobinow@gmail.com>
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> Fails on MSVC:

What version, please?




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* Re: Emacs 23.0.92 pretest
  2009-04-02  3:38       ` Kenichi Handa
@ 2009-04-02 19:32         ` Eli Zaretskii
  2009-04-03  1:59           ` Kenichi Handa
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 25+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2009-04-02 19:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Kenichi Handa; +Cc: ndbecker2, emacs-devel

> From: Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>
> CC: ndbecker2@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 12:38:53 +0900
> 
> In article <u63hnkajg.fsf@gnu.org>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> > > From: Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>
> > > Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2009 10:01:11 +0900
> > > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> [...]
> > > > Don't forget libotf!  I maintain that for fedora specifically to support 
> > > > emacs.
> > > 
> > > m17n-flt is necessary too to utilize libotf for Complex Text
> > > Layout.
> 
> > That should be probably mentioned in INSTALL.
> 
> Current INSTALL has this section.  What should be added?
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> * Complex Text Layout support libraries

Sorry, I didn't see it because it's (IMO) too far from the beginning.
How about moving it before the section that talks about intlfonts?




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* Re: [h-e-w] Re: Emacs 23.0.92 pretest
  2009-03-31 11:49 ` Jason Rumney
@ 2009-04-02 20:18   ` Ugly Me
  2009-04-02 22:51     ` Chong Yidong
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 25+ messages in thread
From: Ugly Me @ 2009-04-02 20:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Emacs Devel

> Chong Yidong wrote:
> > Emacs pretest 23.0.92 is now available; this is the third pretest for
> > what will be the Emacs 23.1 release.  You can download it via FTP, at
> > the following location:
> >
> >   http://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/emacs-23.0.92.tar.gz
> >
> > The xdelta against the previous pretest, 23.0.91, is here:
> >
> >   http://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/emacs-23.0.91-23.0.92.xdelta
> >
> > Pretesters: please send an email to me reporting success or failure on
> > your build platform.  In addition, please report bugs via M-x
> > report-emacs-bugs, or send an email to emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org.  For
> > questions, please email emacs-devel@gnu.org.
> >
> > Thank you.

Because I don't know if this is a bug or not, I'm sending the message here.
This build opens up TWO processes. One being the main emacs application, and
the other opens in what resembles a DOS screen with nothing but a cursor
that I can't seem to do anything with except move it around the screen.
If I try to close that, both processes terminate.  I don't recall this ever
happening in previous builds.
However, in a previous version I had a colour scheme problem which still
holds true.
For example, the opening line on the title screen: "Welcome to GNU Emacs,
one component of the GNU operating system."

This is in red, which is fine, except for "GNU Emacs" and "GNU" which is in
a bright turquoise shade.  So are the links and the build information.
This makes it VERY difficult to read and I'm wondering how to change the
default colours.  I know it's probably there somewhere but I'm having
trouble finding it.
True, I'm not fluent in Emacs but I still don't mind using beta versions,
and, the colour problem is not limited to this version anyhow, but also of
22.3.1 as well.
Prior to this I never had a problem.

-Sean
msudol0928@rogers.com





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* Re: Emacs 23.0.92 pretest
  2009-04-02 19:28   ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2009-04-02 21:53     ` David Robinow
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: David Robinow @ 2009-04-02 21:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: cyd, emacs-devel

On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
>> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 12:20:02 -0400
>> From: David Robinow <drobinow@gmail.com>
>> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
>>
>> Fails on MSVC:
>
> What version, please?
>
Sorry, I should know better.

 Microsoft Visual Studio .NET 2003
 Windows XP Home Edition Version 2002 Service Pack 3

	cl -I. -nologo -c -Zel -W2 -H63 -Oxsb2 -Oy- -G6dF -Zp8     -Demacs=1
-DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I../nt/inc -DHAVE_NTGUI=1  -DPURESIZE=5000000
-Foobj-spd/i386\ alloc.c atimer.c buffer.c bytecode.c callint.c
callproc.c casefiddle.c cm.c cmds.c data.c dired.c dispnew.c doc.c
doprnt.c editfns.c eval.c fileio.c filelock.c filemode.c fns.c
indent.c insdel.c keyboard.c keymap.c lread.c macros.c marker.c md5.c
minibuf.c w32.c w32heap.c w32inevt.c w32proc.c w32console.c print.c
process.c regex.c scroll.c search.c sound.c syntax.c sysdep.c term.c
termcap.c tparam.c undo.c unexw32.c window.c xdisp.c casetab.c
floatfns.c frame.c gmalloc.c intervals.c composite.c ralloc.c
textprop.c vm-limit.c region-cache.c strftime.c charset.c character.c
chartab.c coding.c category.c ccl.c font.c fontset.c fringe.c image.c
terminal.c menu.c

...
frame.c
frame.c(3283) : warning C4047: '=' : 'Lisp_Object' differs in levels
of indirection from 'Window'
frame.c(3430) : error C2275: 'Lisp_Object' : illegal use of this type
as an expression
        c:\home\emacs-23.0.92\src\lisp.h(315) : see declaration of 'Lisp_Object'
frame.c(3430) : error C2146: syntax error : missing ';' before identifier 'lval'
frame.c(3430) : error C2144: syntax error : '<Unknown>' should be
preceded by '<Unknown>'
frame.c(3430) : error C2144: syntax error : '<Unknown>' should be
preceded by '<Unknown>'
frame.c(3430) : error C2143: syntax error : missing ';' before 'identifier'
frame.c(3430) : error C2065: 'lval' : undeclared identifier




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* Re: [h-e-w] Re: Emacs 23.0.92 pretest
  2009-04-02 20:18   ` [h-e-w] " Ugly Me
@ 2009-04-02 22:51     ` Chong Yidong
       [not found]       ` <002901c9b401$1ae98b90$8807ef63@MYLITTLEPHONY>
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 25+ messages in thread
From: Chong Yidong @ 2009-04-02 22:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ugly Me; +Cc: Emacs Devel

"Ugly Me" <ugly@frightenstein.com> writes:

> For example, the opening line on the title screen: "Welcome to GNU Emacs,
> one component of the GNU operating system."
>
> This is in red, which is fine, except for "GNU Emacs" and "GNU" which is in
> a bright turquoise shade.  So are the links and the build information.
> This makes it VERY difficult to read

That's surprising---by default, the color for links should be blue on
bright backgrounds.  It's cyan on dark backgrounds, but cyan should be
perfectly visible on dark backgrounds.  Have you performed any color
customizations?




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* Re: Emacs 23.0.92 pretest
  2009-04-02 19:32         ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2009-04-03  1:59           ` Kenichi Handa
  2009-04-03  9:58             ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 25+ messages in thread
From: Kenichi Handa @ 2009-04-03  1:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: ndbecker2, emacs-devel

In article <uvdpmj1gf.fsf@gnu.org>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

> > Current INSTALL has this section.  What should be added?
> > 
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > * Complex Text Layout support libraries

> Sorry, I didn't see it because it's (IMO) too far from the beginning.
> How about moving it before the section that talks about intlfonts?

Ok, I've just move that section to the earlier place.

---
Kenichi Handa
handa@m17n.org




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* Re: [h-e-w] Re: Emacs 23.0.92 pretest
       [not found]       ` <002901c9b401$1ae98b90$8807ef63@MYLITTLEPHONY>
@ 2009-04-03  3:58         ` Chong Yidong
  2009-04-03  4:52           ` Jan Djärv
  2009-04-04  0:50           ` Ugly Me
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: Chong Yidong @ 2009-04-03  3:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ugly Me; +Cc: emacs-devel

>> That's surprising---by default, the color for links should be blue on
>> bright backgrounds.  It's cyan on dark backgrounds, but cyan should be
>> perfectly visible on dark backgrounds.  Have you performed any color
>> customizations?
>
> That's my point. I haven't.

As I was saying, the shade of blue used for links should be legible by
default, and it's a bug if it's not.  Can you confirm that it's cyan on
a white background, as opposed to dark blue on a white background (which
is what I see for the default on GNU/Linux)?

> How do I do it?

Customize the `link' face (see the Emacs manual for details of
customization).




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* Re: [h-e-w] Re: Emacs 23.0.92 pretest
  2009-04-03  3:58         ` Chong Yidong
@ 2009-04-03  4:52           ` Jan Djärv
  2009-04-04  0:50           ` Ugly Me
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: Jan Djärv @ 2009-04-03  4:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Chong Yidong; +Cc: Ugly Me, emacs-devel



Chong Yidong skrev:
>>> That's surprising---by default, the color for links should be blue on
>>> bright backgrounds.  It's cyan on dark backgrounds, but cyan should be
>>> perfectly visible on dark backgrounds.  Have you performed any color
>>> customizations?
>> That's my point. I haven't.
> 
> As I was saying, the shade of blue used for links should be legible by
> default, and it's a bug if it's not.  Can you confirm that it's cyan on
> a white background, as opposed to dark blue on a white background (which
> is what I see for the default on GNU/Linux)?
> 
>> How do I do it?
> 
> Customize the `link' face (see the Emacs manual for details of
> customization).
> 

I've noticed that some distributions of GNU/Linux does customizations for you, 
on a global basis.  Check for anything like /etc/emacs, /etc/emacs.d, 
/etc/X11/app-defaults/Emacs, /usr/lib/X11/app-default/Emacs.

	Jan D.




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* Re: Emacs 23.0.92 pretest
  2009-04-03  1:59           ` Kenichi Handa
@ 2009-04-03  9:58             ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2009-04-03  9:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Kenichi Handa; +Cc: ndbecker2, emacs-devel

> From: Kenichi Handa <handa@m17n.org>
> CC: ndbecker2@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 10:59:45 +0900
> 
> In article <uvdpmj1gf.fsf@gnu.org>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> > > Current INSTALL has this section.  What should be added?
> > > 
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > > * Complex Text Layout support libraries
> 
> > Sorry, I didn't see it because it's (IMO) too far from the beginning.
> > How about moving it before the section that talks about intlfonts?
> 
> Ok, I've just move that section to the earlier place.

Thank you.




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* Re: [h-e-w] Re: Emacs 23.0.92 pretest
  2009-04-03  3:58         ` Chong Yidong
  2009-04-03  4:52           ` Jan Djärv
@ 2009-04-04  0:50           ` Ugly Me
  2009-04-04 14:33             ` Andy Moreton
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 25+ messages in thread
From: Ugly Me @ 2009-04-04  0:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Chong Yidong; +Cc: Emacs Devel


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chong Yidong" <cyd@stupidchicken.com>
To: "Ugly Me" <ugly@frightenstein.com>
Cc: <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 02, 2009 11:58 PM
Subject: Re: [h-e-w] Re: Emacs 23.0.92 pretest


> >> That's surprising---by default, the color for links should be blue on
> >> bright backgrounds.  It's cyan on dark backgrounds, but cyan should be
> >> perfectly visible on dark backgrounds.  Have you performed any color
> >> customizations?
> >
> > That's my point. I haven't.
>
> As I was saying, the shade of blue used for links should be legible by
> default, and it's a bug if it's not.  Can you confirm that it's cyan on
> a white background, as opposed to dark blue on a white background (which
> is what I see for the default on GNU/Linux)?
>
> > How do I do it?
>
> Customize the `link' face (see the Emacs manual for details of
> customization).

First things first. I did not FIX the problem of it opening in a full blank
screen, but in modifying the DOS parameters I instructed the program to open
in a window rather than full screen.
Thus the blank DOS window opens in the background while the emacs program
opens in the foreground.  As I think I said before, this has never happened
in previous versions I have used.
As usual, close the task for the blank window, Emacs terminates.
As for the link face part... I'll check the manual.






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* Re: [h-e-w] Re: Emacs 23.0.92 pretest
  2009-04-04  0:50           ` Ugly Me
@ 2009-04-04 14:33             ` Andy Moreton
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: Andy Moreton @ 2009-04-04 14:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-devel

On Sat 04 Apr 2009, Ugly Me wrote:
> First things first. I did not FIX the problem of it opening in a full blank
> screen, but in modifying the DOS parameters I instructed the program to open
> in a window rather than full screen.
> Thus the blank DOS window opens in the background while the emacs program
> opens in the foreground.  As I think I said before, this has never happened
> in previous versions I have used.
> As usual, close the task for the blank window, Emacs terminates.
> As for the link face part... I'll check the manual.

How are you starting emacs ? If you run "emacs.exe" then you will see a
DOS box as an artifact of the way Windows distinguishes between console
and windowed programs. Try starting emacs using "runemacs.exe" instead.

HTH

    AndyM





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* Re: Emacs 23.0.92 pretest
  2009-04-02 16:20 ` David Robinow
  2009-04-02 19:28   ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2009-04-06 14:54   ` Jason Rumney
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 25+ messages in thread
From: Jason Rumney @ 2009-04-06 14:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: David Robinow; +Cc: Chong Yidong, emacs-devel

David Robinow wrote:
> Fails on MSVC:
>
> frame.c
> frame.c(3283) : warning C4047: '=' : 'Lisp_Object' differs in levels
> of indirection from 'Window'
> frame.c(3430) : error C2275: 'Lisp_Object' : illegal use of this type
> as an expression
>         c:\home\emacs-23.0.92\src\lisp.h(315) : see declaration of 'Lisp_Object'
>   

The problem was a C99 style mid-block variable declaration. Obviously 
gcc accepts this, or it would have been picked up earlier, but I'm 
surprised not to have heard about it from others using a pre-C99 compiler.





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