From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: compiled lisp file format (Re: Skipping unexec via a big .elc file) Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 11:03:38 -0700 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <4d93ecf1-a63e-6718-d8bb-fc175004ba3d@cs.ucla.edu> References: <8A8DA980-13A7-4F8B-9D07-391728C673C9@raeburn.org> <86lgrc4vob.fsf@molnjunk.nocrew.org> <834ly0oew1.fsf@gnu.org> <968E8F50-92F6-43C7-B7E4-EE8378943087@raeburn.org> <83wpawmj4d.fsf@gnu.org> <1e397033-8291-1625-8b78-a1e1c200aea5@gmail.com> <18196f08-408d-8b17-423e-8be54507bb84@gmail.com> <8360hkkcgj.fsf@gnu.org> <26b35c16-33e7-0e08-9cc5-6f9b81e40968@cs.ucla.edu> <554fd451-8c5a-755d-1fba-a5473bf2ecfc@cs.ucla.edu> <60D5F708-B068-4D27-8FC5-F73F6AB1C44D@raeburn.org> <36e5ef5d-3ad9-7a30-bf7f-e7467a0af2bf@cs.ucla.edu> <83h903ftpx.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1496081032 4487 195.159.176.226 (29 May 2017 18:03:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 18:03:52 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.1.1 Cc: raeburn@raeburn.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 29 20:03:48 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dFP19-0000yt-Ce for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 29 May 2017 20:03:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49892 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dFP1E-0006rw-CR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 29 May 2017 14:03:52 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53516) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dFP18-0006rd-4u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 29 May 2017 14:03:46 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dFP17-0001Nz-Em for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 29 May 2017 14:03:46 -0400 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:41428) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dFP13-0001JY-D6; Mon, 29 May 2017 14:03:41 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B36F1600A7; Mon, 29 May 2017 11:03:39 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id WDez7GGklTBf; Mon, 29 May 2017 11:03:38 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 803D21600B8; Mon, 29 May 2017 11:03:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id My-hhx33OgxX; Mon, 29 May 2017 11:03:38 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.9] (unknown [47.153.188.248]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 60BC11600A7; Mon, 29 May 2017 11:03:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83h903ftpx.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Language: en-US X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 131.179.128.68 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:215316 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii wrote: > My problem with this alternative > is that I believe maintaining it will need experts on C and C > compilers that we cannot rely on having available. I don't see why we'd need any more expertise in C than we already require= . The=20 Emacs core is written in C, and one must be expert in C to maintain it. T= he C=20 code that would be output would be simple -- much simpler than what we ar= e=20 already maintaining.