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From: Xah Lee <xahlee@gmail.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: a key system to replace gnu emacs's 1000 default keybindings
Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 10:37:37 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4d8a8454-22d9-44a3-9f57-7d5791534d30@t2g2000pbl.googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: jpo11j01sa6@news6.newsguy.com


xah wrote:
> my first voice blog.
> 〈The Roadmap to Completely Replace Emacs's Key System〉
> http://xahlee.org/emacs/emacs_keybinding_redesign.html

Xah wrote:
 «Here's a new thing i've learned. Normally, it's a good advice to
press combination keys using both hands. That is, suppose you want to
press【Ctrl+x】. You should use right hand to hold right Ctrl and left
hand to press x. But if you are a touch typer and leave your hand in
standard position, so you press the x with 4th finger. That'll cause a
major problem if done often.»

On May 25, 6:22 am, "B. T. Raven" <btra...@nihilo.net> wrote:
«This was obvious from the start. You shouldn't have switched to CUA.»

note that, 【Ctrl+x】 is used by emacs more heavily than CUA's cut. So,
it's even worse.

Raven wrote:
«If you are that drastic you might as well go whole hog and redesign
the Emacs ui for gaming keyboards with n-key rollover. That would make
room for comfortably adding trillions of new bindings.»

yeah a hardware keyboard is certainly much better.

the best i can think of are:

μTron ($570)
http://xahlee.org/kbd/uTRON_keyboard.html

“Truly Ergonomic” ($200)
http://xahlee.org/kbd/Truly_Ergonomic_keyboard.html

Kinesis (≈$250)
http://xahlee.org/emacs/keyboard_Kinesis.html

my analysis of their design, for my personal taste, starting with
best, are: μTron, TE, Kinesis.

What's your fav?

Raven wrote:
«… I think that ergonomic science is far enough advanced that the
mouse can be done away with for most applications (even Autocad and
Photoshop).»

i don't think this is true. e.g. just look at browser. There is
absolutely no way keyboard can beat Mouse. Unless, you are considering
other fancy devices other than traditional keyboard. (e.g. touch-pad,
pen devices, touch screen, etc.)


Raven wrote:
«
Besides dvorak layout and keytweak rearrangement in order to locate
the most used modkeys closest to the (split) backspace-spacebar, the
only changes I've made to default bindings are these:

;; Single char cursor movement on Dvorak layout
(global-set-key [(meta h)] 'backward-char-nomark)
(global-set-key [(meta n)] 'forward-char-nomark)
(global-set-key [(meta c)] 'previous-line-nomark)
(global-set-key [(meta t)] 'next-line-nomark)
(global-set-key [(meta H)] 'mark-paragraph) ;; upcased default
bindings
(global-set-key [(meta N)] 'next-buffer)
(global-set-key [(meta C)] 'capitalize-word)
(global-set-key [(meta T)] 'transpose-words)

shift-backspace and shift-space were at one time assigned to ( and )
[much easier than shift-9 and shift-10) but shift-space now resolves
to
space, I know not why.
»

Nice. Weren't you using ergoemacs keybinding before? didn't like other
keys?

 Xah


  reply	other threads:[~2012-05-25 17:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-22 19:18 a key system to replace gnu emacs's 1000 default keybindings Xah Lee
2012-05-25 13:22 ` B. T. Raven
2012-05-25 17:37   ` Xah Lee [this message]
2012-05-25 22:24     ` Thad Floryan
2012-05-25 22:47       ` Xah Lee
2012-05-25 23:32         ` Thad Floryan
2012-05-25 23:55         ` Thad Floryan
2012-05-26 13:08           ` Xah Lee
2012-05-26 14:13             ` Mark Skilbeck
2012-05-26 23:11             ` Thad Floryan
2012-05-26 23:42               ` Xah Lee
2012-05-27 13:50                 ` Joe Corneli
2012-05-27  1:52               ` John Bokma
2012-05-26 15:57         ` Dan Espen
2012-05-26 16:45           ` Xah Lee
2012-05-26 19:02             ` Chris F.A. Johnson
2012-05-26 22:58               ` Xah Lee
2012-05-27  0:21                 ` Dan Espen
2012-05-27  8:59                   ` Xah Lee
2012-05-26 19:10             ` Dan Espen
2012-05-26 23:30             ` Thad Floryan
2012-05-26 23:36               ` Thad Floryan
2012-05-26 23:52               ` Thad Floryan
2012-05-27  9:01               ` Xah Lee
2012-05-30 16:27           ` Nix
2012-05-30 16:37             ` Daimrod
2012-05-30 17:54               ` rusi
2012-05-30 18:08                 ` Joe Corneli
2012-05-30 18:19                 ` Dan Espen
2012-05-30 21:37             ` Jonathan Groll
2012-05-31 13:37             ` David Robinow
     [not found]             ` <mailman.2007.1338471469.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2012-05-31 17:05               ` rusi
2012-05-25 23:08       ` Xah Lee
2012-05-25 23:24       ` Thad Floryan
2012-05-26 12:38     ` B. T. Raven
2012-05-26 13:45       ` Xah Lee
2012-05-27 14:18       ` Óscar Fuentes
2012-05-26  8:48 ` Bigos
2012-05-26  9:31   ` Bigos

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