From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Andreas =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#25015: 26.0.50; beginning-of-defun-raw goes too far Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2016 18:18:26 +0100 Message-ID: <4d439630-593a-4df6-702e-6d47efab8d50@easy-emacs.de> References: <87bmx5qbbx.fsf@mbork.pl> <83d1hk6cga.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1480007421 7993 195.159.176.226 (24 Nov 2016 17:10:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2016 17:10:21 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/45.4.0 Cc: Marcin Borkowski To: 25015@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 24 18:10:17 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c9xXM-0000lu-9I for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Thu, 24 Nov 2016 18:09:36 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83d1hk6cga.fsf@gnu.org> X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:MaRVVSpH4A0XCmSMu6vRqr6Yu8GXW9H7YpmcsWtrDN2RCeW4b89 YqPg5dAxOkFJQYPqt6lEPGR//5BLwllB6dl5IxRXgipiZ+lHLU6ihv1ZGp6oqW6kBxgebbh 1n0rxA7CRE4fPkAPwdurUvRm1i6GJzpBEgO0Cc81w+Bcph2N4ZoB7rjPgaBUP6N69/VNw3e SB/oKakrtt1mx2liqZMbw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:ZUjtpv+Gn6E=:ZaQJTRNtxgzx1EeshII7QJ c41is041J0YeaXxBPemYpSU//M2vvqDGVM2lS8N0GqG6VC9S2jv/7U8mYxCDYS/emFpmiip/P UpZKjXF+UPNppBMDuNH1ep509PcKMZ0geG7NlMkOCz/O/DTJjcWg4n74a/lvlQm3iN8IQhVvH fpCkut3qNYKLSRBVfibmLfVrXPfcH0xw35fHOLPDG5/xm/+fgDz0Zv2fOSOhMc8Ytltie52k1 cNiDopX9Xv80lIXwvAXzIKdbodvx4hxWzI4cIVrNtE/8JHdP/1RA8hbk6ItTqCSMbr3vCl/pQ FUjZiGHKr6eQY1htyoSbc0Qu/V0wCKF/rsCvb+EncOJ0AzfQKpiodi/tJ87yy34ExpIP2DgHE EP9Vp/CM7+TSY00ScyVBXG97iiJTSaPUVI8e4fOl1Ow46saMKOMOQA/3JNY1SPPgnxE6APj8M LJNIgxmGABU8Cr6MA80Fd7nJdS1hB0ZPYAHkJo6oRQs9vqsfkApcSMP+3kgLNUOML4bGkdAzd 9FbQ39cPLdgin2voUrFzX1jn8EA9uL84rTVD1DnLgEnWy41EUMW3SbMeaFoEQdlEfPurggfP3 97PQYQZsMPmWDwA1E5RGsOlAT6uK0gpDTv97DFRirdo5gOkQa7fI8n2ZKuXpBKOKekpd72/1C 3v4/gzOTswrbT1ZggcOiFD0sf20nHzyD+0o4cE6QyjjX/bXA7gProz/5OuhRzLV6GPyOG4xnB rQV5KVAd5TkXW/xq X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:126052 Archived-At: On 24.11.2016 17:59, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Marcin Borkowski >> Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2016 14:03:30 +0100 >> >> consider this in an Elisp-mode buffer: >> >> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- >> ;; Comment header >> >> -!-(defun func-1 (arg) >> "docstring" >> body) >> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- >> >> (-!- means the point). > This means point is actually _before_ the function, right? Assume the drawing was meant to say: at start position. > >> Type M-x beginning-of-defun-raw. The point moves to the beginning >> of buffer instead of staying where it is. > Do you still think it's a problem? > > > IMHO it's a design question. Which might be answered with the current state. OTOH seen from the editors point, just returning nil of no further from is available seems convenient - that way the current position isn't lost.