org-read-date minibuffer bindings:

org-read-date minibuffer bindings:

[T. V. Raman]

For all date/calendar related things, down-arrow moves forward,
up-arrow back --- except in the  keybindings set up for
org-time-stamp through org-shiftup and org-shiftdown

In some sense, the binding used there -- up-arrow increases
down-arrow decreases field under point makes local sense, but is
globally confusing.

I'd suggest swapping them around.

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Re: org-read-date minibuffer bindings:

[Carsten Dominik]

On Sep 4, 2007, at 4:29, T. V. Raman wrote:

> For all date/calendar related things, down-arrow moves forward,
> up-arrow back --- except in the  keybindings set up for
> org-time-stamp through org-shiftup and org-shiftdown
>
> In some sense, the binding used there -- up-arrow increases
> down-arrow decreases field under point makes local sense, but is
> globally confusing.

You are right, I have been irritated by this as well, without
knowing why.  I modeled it after the typical number selection
item in widgets that usually have little arrow on the side that
you can click.

But now you are telling me the reason of my confusion:  In the
calenda and in the agenda, down means later.

I am hesitant to change the default for this (would to after
massive voting), but there will be an option
`org-edit-timestamp-down-means-later' in the next version.

Thanks!

- Carsten

Re: org-read-date minibuffer bindings:

[T. V. Raman]

Incidentally, it might be worthwhile to promote org-read-date to
all of Emacs as read-date -- Emacs needs a good date-picker
widget alongside things like read-file and org-read-date is the
best I've seen. Incidentally I'm planning to update gcal.el (part
of emacs-g-client)
to use org-read-date if available.

>>>>> "Carsten" == Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> writes:
    Carsten> On Sep 4, 2007, at 4:29, T. V. Raman wrote:
    Carsten> 
    >> For all date/calendar related things, down-arrow moves
    >> forward, up-arrow back --- except in the keybindings set
    >> up for org-time-stamp through org-shiftup and
    >> org-shiftdown
    >> 
    >> In some sense, the binding used there -- up-arrow
    >> increases down-arrow decreases field under point makes
    >> local sense, but is globally confusing.
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> You are right, I have been irritated by this as
    Carsten> well, without knowing why.  I modeled it after the
    Carsten> typical number selection item in widgets that
    Carsten> usually have little arrow on the side that you can
    Carsten> click.
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> But now you are telling me the reason of my
    Carsten> confusion: In the calenda and in the agenda, down
    Carsten> means later.
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> I am hesitant to change the default for this (would
    Carsten> to after massive voting), but there will be an
    Carsten> option `org-edit-timestamp-down-means-later' in the
    Carsten> next version.
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> Thanks!
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> - Carsten
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> 
    Carsten> _______________________________________________
    Carsten> Emacs-orgmode mailing list Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
    Carsten> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode

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