From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rusi Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: if vs. when vs. and: style question now Unicode Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 10:46:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4c7e9166-8791-4d1a-b5d5-8d142b1de925@googlegroups.com> References: <87sicvwckx.fsf@wmi.amu.edu.pl> <87wq27yvqg.fsf@debian.uxu> <8d531e99-7260-4263-ac99-09c6871e2708@googlegroups.com> <87vbhq53lf.fsf@debian.uxu> <87a8z23p23.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <87lhilx0cf.fsf@debian.uxu> <87twx9360u.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <0d1d19ab-06e9-462d-8867-9a49b1e232d3@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1427305822 27646 80.91.229.3 (25 Mar 2015 17:50:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 17:50:22 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 25 18:50:22 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YapRc-00088J-21 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 18:50:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40545 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YapRb-0005Z0-CF for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 13:50:19 -0400 X-Received: by 10.66.136.175 with SMTP id qb15mr11869897pab.11.1427305599634; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 10:46:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.50.115.104 with SMTP id jn8mr458175igb.11.1427305599588; Wed, 25 Mar 2015 10:46:39 -0700 (PDT) Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!z20no17390igj.0!news-out.google.com!db6ni5igc.0!nntp.google.com!z20no3220851igj.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=117.195.49.60; posting-account=mBpa7woAAAAGLEWUUKpmbxm-Quu5D8ui Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 117.195.49.60 User-Agent: G2/1.0 Injection-Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2015 17:46:39 +0000 Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:211052 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:103333 Archived-At: On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 9:16:21 PM UTC+5:30, Dan Espen wrote: > There are thousands of these crazy symbols and around 100 keys on my > keyboard. Only a few of those keys have more than 1 label. Ive not seen your keyboard. Yet am ready to bet that for your keyboard: - There is a key whose 'label' looks like 'A' - There is no key whose label looks like 'a' - Yet when you type that key you get an 'a' not an 'A' - That there is no way using your keyboard to get a 'a' with a single-keyst= roke [Also I bet you've heard of an editor named after the chord-chars Escape-Meta-Alt-Control-Shift ] In short... >=20 > How am I supposed to remember how to type all this stuff? You are already using an 'input-method' any-which-how already. Inside emacs you are using probably hundreds of chords and chord-sequences = that are completely un-memonic =E2=80=93 What the hell does C-x C-c have to do w= ith terminating? And what about the 4-char-chord M-C-S-% for query-replace-regexp ? We can use more sophisticated ones for richer charsets (if we wish) tl;dr US-104 =E2=89=A0 ASCII