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From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: acm@muc.de, rudalics@gmx.at, rrandresf@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Scrolling commands and skipping redisplay, was: Re: emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2020 21:37:08 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4c5ebff1-39ab-3d63-6118-42befc93b862@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvmu7k4x63.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

On 09.04.2020 16:19, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> BTW, you can also set `jit-lock-defer-time` to 0 in which case jit-lock
> is deferred iff there's input pending.
> [ This refinement of `jit-lock-defer-time` was introduced last time
>    this kind of discussion took place, which is also the time
>    `fast-but-imprecise-scrolling` was introduced.  ]

Thanks. I tried it (and mentioned in the parent thread), but it seems 
like in addition to the downsides of f-b-i-s (imprecise scrolling, which 
apparently makes it a bad candidate for default behavior) it adds some 
extra flickering from time to time (I figured because some redisplays 
occurred before the idle timer had the chance to run). It's not as 
obvious in an 'emacs -Q' session, but with my custom config it's more 
apparent. And that flickering occurs the most while I'm flooring C-v.

Is it possible that the conditions for skipping redisplay might return 
false while input-pending-p returns t? Then redisplay will occur, but if 
that coincides with an unfontified screenful, the screen will be 
rendered unfontified? That doesn't explain the additional frames where 
that highlighting is added, however.



  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-09 18:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 359+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-21 22:19 emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3 rrandresf
2020-03-21 22:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-22  3:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-22 12:38 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-22 15:08   ` Amin Bandali
2020-03-22 16:58     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-23  2:51     ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-26 19:31       ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-26 20:25         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-26 20:38         ` rrandresf
2020-03-27  7:00           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-27 18:36             ` andrés ramírez
2020-03-28  2:48             ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-28  7:09               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28  9:08                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 11:58                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-28 11:43                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-28 12:05                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 12:18                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-28 12:28                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 13:14                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-03-28 13:28                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-29 14:13                             ` andrés ramírez
2020-03-28 13:54                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-28 12:43                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-28  2:40           ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-28  9:21             ` Michael Albinus
2020-03-28  9:58             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 10:09               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 14:43               ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-03-28 15:03                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 15:17                   ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-03-28 15:44                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 16:10                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-28 16:11                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-28 16:25                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-28 16:43                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-28 21:08                             ` rrandresf
2020-03-28 21:20                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-28 21:38                                 ` andrés ramírez
2020-03-28 21:41                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-28 22:15                                     ` andres.ramirez
2020-03-28 22:24                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-29 14:30                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-29 16:39                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-29 17:28                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-29 18:10                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-29 18:54                                   ` emacs-tree-sitter and font-lock (was: emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3) Stefan Monnier
2020-03-29 19:20                                     ` emacs-tree-sitter and font-lock Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-31 10:15                                   ` font lock with functions (was: emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3) David Engster
2020-03-31 10:42                                     ` font lock with functions Adam Porter
2020-03-31 13:20                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-31 14:25                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-31 14:56                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-03-31 15:04                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-01 10:13                                       ` David Engster
2020-04-01  1:02                                     ` Stephen Leake
2020-03-29 18:27                               ` emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3 Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-29 18:39                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-29 19:11                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-03-29 19:04                               ` 조성빈
2020-03-29 19:12                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-30  3:42               ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-30 13:01                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31  2:28                   ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-31 13:07                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 16:05                       ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-31 17:34                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 18:00                           ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-31 18:19                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-31 18:34                               ` Andrea Corallo
2020-03-31 19:05                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-01  2:07                       ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-01 13:23                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-02  2:32                           ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-02  7:32                             ` martin rudalics
2020-04-03  2:52                               ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-03  6:59                                 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-03 13:38                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-03 16:23                                     ` martin rudalics
2020-04-03 16:56                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-04  8:54                                         ` martin rudalics
2020-04-03 18:08                                       ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-04  8:55                                         ` martin rudalics
2020-04-05  0:07                                           ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-05  1:50                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-05  8:46                                             ` martin rudalics
2020-04-05 20:38                                               ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-05 10:23                                             ` Inlining policy (was: emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3) Andrea Corallo
2020-04-06 18:15                                               ` Inlining policy Stefan Monnier
2020-04-06 18:26                                                 ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-06 19:17                                                   ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-06 21:45                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-08  4:03                                               ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-08 18:28                                                 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-08 18:44                                                   ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-08 19:09                                                     ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-08 21:00                                                     ` Paul Eggert
2020-04-08 21:31                                                       ` Andrea Corallo
2020-04-03 17:47                                   ` emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3 Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-04  8:56                                     ` martin rudalics
2020-04-04 10:45                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-04 11:10                                         ` martin rudalics
2020-04-04 11:29                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-05  8:44                                             ` martin rudalics
2020-04-05 13:08                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-05 15:50                                                 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-05 16:15                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-05 18:05                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-05 18:16                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-05 18:20                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-05 18:27                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-05 18:42                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-05 19:03                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-05 19:25                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-06  2:25                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-06 18:59                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-07 14:30                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-07 15:04                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-07 17:42                                                                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-07 19:45                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-08  2:09                                                                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-10  3:33                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-12 15:34                                                                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-16  1:43                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-19 17:12                                                                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-19 18:12                                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-19 23:21                                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-20 13:33                                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-20 19:01                                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-20 19:51                                                                                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-20 21:58                                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-20 20:06                                                                                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-20 20:08                                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-20 21:19                                                                                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-21  1:41                                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-21  3:41                                                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-16 13:52                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-07 19:22                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-07 20:05                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-08  6:17                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-07 20:10                                                                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-08  6:15                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-08  7:02                                                                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-08  7:10                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-08  7:40                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-08 14:22                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-08 15:06                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-08 15:16                                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-08 15:36                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-08  8:38                                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-08  9:44                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-08 14:25                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-05 18:23                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-05 18:55                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-05 19:03                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-05 19:14                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-05 19:21                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-06  2:16                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-06 18:39                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-06 21:27                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-06 21:40                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-06 23:43                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-06 23:53                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-07  3:17                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-05 19:06                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-05 19:16                                                             ` andrés ramírez
2020-04-05 19:19                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-05 19:28                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-05 19:57                                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-05 20:48                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-06 12:43                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-06 13:39                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-06 13:55                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-06 14:44                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-06 17:16                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-07 14:26                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-08  2:29                                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-08  6:45                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-08  8:37                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2020-04-08 13:59                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-08 14:45                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-09  0:32                                                                       ` Scrolling commands and skipping redisplay, was: " Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-09  7:46                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-09 13:19                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-09 18:37                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2020-04-09 19:16                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-09 19:30                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-09 19:46                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-09 21:50                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-10  6:13                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-10 12:38                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-10 13:34                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-10 14:34                                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-10 14:45                                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-10 17:23                                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-10 17:46                                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-11  4:44                                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-11 13:45                                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-11 21:32                                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-12  5:03                                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-16  2:04                                                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-10 18:25                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-10 15:47                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-11  0:21                                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-11  7:55                                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-12  2:51                                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-12  7:01                                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-09 19:20                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-09 19:28                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-10  6:08                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-10 14:38                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-09 19:33                                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-09 22:17                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-10  6:47                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-10 13:00                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-10 13:38                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-10 14:29                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-10 14:41                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-10 15:36                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-10 15:55                                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-10 14:45                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-10 15:56                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-12  3:07                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-12  7:10                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-16  2:18                                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-16  5:22                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-16 20:13                                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-17  6:11                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-17 17:04                                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-17 17:35                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-17 17:52                                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-17 18:48                                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-19 17:09                                                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-19 17:17                                                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-19 18:51                                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-19 23:22                                                                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-20 14:23                                                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-20 15:36                                                                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-20 16:42                                                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-20 16:51                                                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-20 16:56                                                                                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-20 17:02                                                                                                                       ` Andreas Schwab
2020-04-20 17:35                                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-20 17:47                                                                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-20 18:12                                                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-20 18:19                                                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-20 18:29                                                                                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-20 18:52                                                                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-20 19:03                                                                                                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-20 18:51                                                                                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-20 19:09                                                                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-20 21:50                                                                                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-21 13:27                                                                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-22  3:14                                                                                                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-22 13:26                                                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-23  2:37                                                                                                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-23 13:17                                                                                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-23 14:46                                                                                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-24  2:39                                                                                                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-20 18:27                                                                                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-20 17:39                                                                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-20 17:42                                                                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-19 19:06                                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-20  3:17                                                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-20 15:01                                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-20 17:04                                                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-20 17:39                                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-20 18:26                                                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-20  3:27                                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-20 15:16                                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-21  1:27                                                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-21 14:02                                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-24  1:23                                                                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-24  9:51                                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-25  0:21                                                                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-16 20:20                                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-17  6:18                                                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-17 15:13                                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-17 15:25                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-17 16:39                                                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-11 13:21                                                                         ` Scrolling commands and skipping redisplay Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-11 13:45                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-11 17:04                                                                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-11 17:15                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-11 21:13                                                                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-06  2:27                                                         ` emacs rendering comparisson between emacs23 and emacs26.3 Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-06 12:26                                                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-07  8:31                                                         ` martin rudalics
2020-04-07 11:47                                                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-07 12:45                                                             ` martin rudalics
2020-04-07 13:11                                                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-08  8:36                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-08 10:37                                                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-08 11:22                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-08 14:01                                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-07 14:15                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-07 12:07                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-07 12:35                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-07 12:45                                                             ` martin rudalics
2020-04-06  9:05                                                     ` martin rudalics
2020-04-06 13:29                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-06 15:29                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-06 17:40                                                         ` martin rudalics
2020-04-05 18:48                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-06  9:05                                                     ` martin rudalics
2020-04-06 15:25                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-06 15:30                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-06 16:23                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-04 12:01                                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-05  8:45                                             ` martin rudalics
2020-04-06  3:49                                               ` Ravine Var
2020-04-06  9:05                                                 ` martin rudalics
2020-04-06  9:04                                         ` martin rudalics
2020-04-04 19:20                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-04 22:53                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-06  9:04                                         ` martin rudalics
2020-04-05  3:12                                     ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-05 11:16                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-05 14:10                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-06  2:36                                           ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-06 14:43                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-07  2:48                                               ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-07  3:23                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-06 14:55                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-06 19:36                                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-06 22:12                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-06 23:41                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-07 14:17                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-06  2:36                                         ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-06 12:14                                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-07  2:49                                             ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-07  3:26                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-08  2:29                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-08  3:48                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-09  3:10                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-09  6:43                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-10  2:08                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-10  3:07                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-11  2:31                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-11  4:20                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-06  2:36                                         ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-05 13:27                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-05 15:50                                     ` martin rudalics
2020-04-06  2:36                                   ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-06 13:21                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-07  8:32                                       ` martin rudalics
2020-04-07 12:52                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-08  8:36                                           ` martin rudalics
2020-04-07 14:03                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-08  8:37                                           ` martin rudalics
2020-04-11 15:13                                         ` Noam Postavsky
2020-04-08  2:29                                       ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-08  6:40                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-09  3:10                                           ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-06 14:46                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-02 13:30                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-03  2:54                               ` Richard Stallman
2020-03-28 20:08             ` andrés ramírez

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