From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Andreas_R=F6hler?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Loading when viewing docstring of autoloaded function Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 08:39:29 +0200 Message-ID: <4FE6B621.6070103@online.de> References: <87395mgy6t.fsf@gnu.org> <87pq8pixsn.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1340519986 18964 80.91.229.3 (24 Jun 2012 06:39:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 06:39:46 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 24 08:39:46 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SigU5-0006qi-SF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 08:39:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39104 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SigU5-00089T-Gs for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 02:39:45 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56283) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SigU1-00089C-JO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 02:39:42 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SigTz-0000Wn-Uj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 02:39:41 -0400 Original-Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.171]:59201) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SigTz-0000Wf-LE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 02:39:39 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.178.27] (brln-4db9d661.pool.mediaWays.net [77.185.214.97]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu3) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0M7A1q-1RuXuQ3KEw-00x4Er; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 08:39:37 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120601 Thunderbird/13.0 In-Reply-To: X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:7t/6yYTpR4hssWqkGG3yb7SNkDuVKgTBbyhOIrbIBZ8 8fkCmsaZleyvDUNvnvexTL05OtghkERsYzUrwNWaS6klZ/Ob4E /MJzv2OlWTxu+oLAVUEEDzDdgqodceksvlj+gAEN6I+e2jvaox unwDKGodct2XLBsjVstZBTLfNNje+BQBiiJTf+3NT4Go35GYq7 LjZGpWufJH5clXMZQzv7ZJz2ACBPAPLJheLfnxHY4IEgLPKvq1 DN1W0+zV0JL5jFA+J1/srTxdgVeciihFRPvq3wPEzITwCc5HZA RuZBdISQBsZSk25XFTYm3XhVj45tCf/MnFJQeGX5WLo+8wCBj1 ozy8Bseo+NJxRqmB3ey0Zg1bg6TNi2VTga2XxN1BZ X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 212.227.126.171 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:151125 Archived-At: Am 24.06.2012 08:25, schrieb Leo: > On 2012-06-24 13:09 +0800, Stefan Monnier wrote: >>> Other than the fact that this is not a solution but workaround, I don't >>> like the idea. Loading may be fast, but the loaded libraries use memory >>> and change the environment, which seems too much to pay for a docstring >>> or seeing a proper key binding (which you might never want to actually >>> use) to me. > > These arguments seem valid. I think we are paying too much for too > little gain. > > Leo > > > what about delivering an independent index, resp. to the way etags produces it? I.e in this case command-name, docstring, source-file-name. Andreas