From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?B?QW5kcmVhcyBSw7ZobGVy?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs users a dying breed? Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 15:27:57 +0200 Message-ID: <4FE472DD.4040201@easy-emacs.de> References: <9809cd1a-9086-4022-af79-732fb6149f20@q5g2000pba.googlegroups.com> <87mx3vzqd7.fsf@friendface.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <87ipejzjce.fsf@friendface.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <4FE45F11.2060105@easy-emacs.de> <87zk7v7but.fsf@gnuvola.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1340371718 11806 80.91.229.3 (22 Jun 2012 13:28:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 13:28:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Thien-Thi Nguyen Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 22 15:28:36 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Si3ud-0001a3-G7 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 15:28:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51179 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Si3ud-0005T9-DV for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 09:28:35 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:51876) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Si3uV-0005Sv-MP for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 09:28:32 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Si3uP-0008U9-Dp for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 09:28:27 -0400 Original-Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.171]:57212) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Si3uP-0008To-49 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 09:28:21 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.178.27] (brln-4db9abec.pool.mediaWays.net [77.185.171.236]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrbap3) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0M5gVc-1RxvMM1EJE-00xbVN; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 15:27:59 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120601 Thunderbird/13.0 In-Reply-To: <87zk7v7but.fsf@gnuvola.org> X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:XNT7LbU9SgVjaUFfKNNUBxBhJNlexgRhu+AJBUCYeMs 4LgFM1JMeS7SmwymAOKwpYyg4UV8OLrWAO/pJM9ifaW1kwaNad Rnqjr544hXaB0TzATH89j6tAa/y1Vt8DcwkpTowhSFI7POuKSZ xm+mYUcJi3tPPR4T7S283J6Dhdfmh0IOrWtIrSWS4ya1ibgdJD nocroByZzbl2ZmackGD2lj/tC5q3JpJ+pm8lfFsmYIDAlD3Eac BxERtPOrIkmXkf/vjMFUGx2MLdr9ZniAw3M7alsfdsgPbF/C4f WFj+0nFJ4VyYCg7bQJQzRqrmyGw450zcb4daB0UgcrjszECeuJ Sd7ySH/9vntzNJzLFkp2rz/iwv60xSI7jk7QE2lF2 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 212.227.126.171 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:85374 Archived-At: Am 22.06.2012 14:46, schrieb Thien-Thi Nguyen: > () Andreas Röhler > () Fri, 22 Jun 2012 14:03:29 +0200 > > Because it might exists reasons for the decline, > which are to discuss before it's to late. > > Emacs is self-documenting, so perhaps that aspect > has improved such that the (IMHO) meaningless metric > of "query term frequency" becomes even more so. > > If a day arrives when no one asks Google about Emacs, > i would do a little dance and drink a little water... > While awaiting the day, let me tell you the sad story of a FUN company's decease, which declared it's code free while adopting the mistake. All the tools Eclipse provides existed in Emacs for years before: ECB, CEDET, projects and the like. What slowed down it's integration? A shortage of fresh water? :) Cheers, Andreas