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From: "Mattias Engdegård" <mattias.engdegard@gmail.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>,
	Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	69387@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#69387: 30.0.50; A string shouldn't be both a docstring and a return value
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2024 19:04:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FCE8B7D-17D7-44E8-A764-A6047209CBE1@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvbk83nn1z.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

26 feb. 2024 kl. 18.44 skrev Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>:

> I don't understand: (cl-defgeneric FUN (ARGS) "DOCSTRING") should not
> generate a function that returns "DOCSTRING" (it should just declare
> FOO to be a generic function with no methods).

Sorry, you are quite right; there is no function generated there.

>> (defun (ARGS) "string") -> (defun (ARGS) "string" "string")
>> 
>> to preserve semantics (and the same for defmacro, cl-defun, etc).
> 
> I still haven't seen any code that wants this behavior, so that's
> a definite no for me.

I presume you mean that `defun`s with a single string always want it to be their doc string? That indeed seems to be the dominant use. These are the few counter-examples that I could find:

> (cl-defmethod gnus-search-transform ((_ gnus-search-imap)
> 				     (_query null))
>   "ALL")

> (cl-defmethod gnus-search-transform ((_engine gnus-search-notmuch)
> 				     (_query null))
>   "*")

> (cl-defmethod xref-location-group ((_ xref-bogus-location)) "(No location)")

> (defun xselect-convert-xm-special (_selection _type _value)
>   "")

There is also the concern that an otherwise empty function with only a doc string could be important for returning a non-nil value. It would take quite some digging to find out whether that occurs so I didn't do it now.






  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-26 18:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-25 16:29 bug#69387: 30.0.50; A string shouldn't be both a docstring and a return value Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-02-25 17:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-02-25 18:23   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-02-25 17:33 ` Eshel Yaron via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-02-26 14:47   ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-02-26 17:15 ` Mattias Engdegård
2024-02-26 17:44   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-02-26 18:04     ` Mattias Engdegård [this message]
2024-02-26 18:17       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-02-26 19:06         ` Mattias Engdegård
2024-03-04 14:28           ` Mattias Engdegård
2024-03-04 14:46             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-05 13:16               ` Mattias Engdegård
2024-03-05 15:38                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-03-06 11:44                   ` Mattias Engdegård
2024-03-07 14:06                     ` Mattias Engdegård

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