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From: Christian Moe <mail@christianmoe.com>
To: Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com>
Cc: Org Mode List <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [dev] Implement "ref" link types
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 20:28:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F414D57.5090205@christianmoe.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87vcn2vgq7.fsf@gmail.com>

Hi,

I think it's a great idea, as I've wanted to do it myself :-) , but 
I'm glad it's in competent hands instead.

Me, I don't see any problem with a [[ref:something]] syntax. It's the 
obvious org-native, cross-backend replacement for \ref. The 
[[protocol:something]] syntax already widens the notion of link to 
shell: and elisp: links, so I wouldn't worry about breaking 
conventions. Using e.g. [[!something]] instead would introduce a brand 
new bit of syntax.

Suggestion: On export, how about enabling automatic element 
descriptions for references following the type:name convention, so 
that e.g. just

: in [[ref:tab:numbers]] we can see...

would expand to

   in Table 2 we can see...

If implemented, this should be user-customizable e.g. through an alist 
like

   (("fig" . "Figure") ("tab" . "Table") ("map" . "Map"))


Yours,
Christian





On 2/19/12 7:08 PM, Nicolas Goaziou wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'd like to introduce a new type of internal links, namely "ref" links.
>
> Since any element can now have a "#+name: something" affiliated keyword,
> it would be practical to have a way to go straight to that name, from
> anywhere in the buffer. The following patch implements
> a [[ref:something]] syntax, or even [[ref:something][text]] to do so.
>
> The problem that I see here is that is breaks a bit syntax for internal
> links ("protocol:path" is usually for external links). Another solution
> would be to make them more hermetic: [[!something]].
>
> On the export side, a "ref" link should be replaced by its description,
> if it has any, or by the sequence number of the matching element among
> elements of the same type. With the new exporter and the following
> buffer:
>
> #+begin_src org
>    #+name: tab:letters
>    #+caption: Letters
>    | a | b |
>    | c | d |
>
>    #+name: tab:numbers
>    #+caption: Numbers
>    | 1 |
>    | 2 |
>
>
>    In tableau [[ref:tab:numbers]] we can see... Yet, in
>    [[ref:tab:numbers][the same table]], ...
> #+end_src
>
> the last sentence, in ascii, becomes:
>
>           In tableau 2 we can see... Yet, in the same table, ...
>
>
> Even if it's not a perfect replacement for "\ref{something}" commands,
> it should be sufficient for all major back-ends to provide an
> approximate functionality. And we gain interactivity in the Org buffer.
>
> What do you think?
>
>
> Regards,
>

  reply	other threads:[~2012-02-19 19:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-02-19 18:08 [dev] Implement "ref" link types Nicolas Goaziou
2012-02-19 19:28 ` Christian Moe [this message]
2012-02-19 19:41   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-02-19 20:11     ` Toby Cubitt
2012-02-19 20:20     ` Christian Moe
2012-02-19 19:41 ` Samuel Wales
2012-02-19 20:02   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-02-19 20:48     ` Samuel Wales
2012-02-19 20:10 ` Carsten Dominik
2012-02-20  0:51   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-02-20  7:09     ` Carsten Dominik
2012-02-20 10:59       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-02-20 22:06         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-02-21  1:26           ` Thomas S. Dye
2012-02-21  5:14           ` David Maus
2012-02-21  9:18             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-02-27 19:38               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-02-27 20:38               ` David Maus
2012-03-05  9:37         ` Jambunathan K

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