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From: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
To: Alin Soare <as1789@gmail.com>
Cc: Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>, Emacs Dev <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Tabs are ready? -> Let us give a definition of tabs.
Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2012 18:05:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F300845.1090709@gmx.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+Xtq3XMaQ8u_dndc1=cfZZEkNfeTpEc2UYVi1QUs4zU1j=5FA@mail.gmail.com>

 >> How do you communicate to the tab what the "something" is?
 >
 >
 >
 > execute 'grep -i foo *' in background , example

I didn't ask "what" the something is.  I asked "how" you want to
communicate that something to the tab.

 >>> 2. The 'show event should commute to the buffer *grep*
 >> This is the standard buffer switching functionality.
 >>
 >>
 > I know how to commute a buffer. In this case of tab, I want the show event
 > to commute to a given buffer.

I meant that this is the standard behavior associated with tabs: Display
something like a file or a webpage in the display area associated with
the tab.

 >>> 3. when grep finds something, and the tab is hidden , the tab widget to
 >>> change the color
 >> What sense does it make to have a hidden tab change color?  And what
 >> kind of event is this in your nomenclature?
 >>
 >>
 > Tabs should register a callback for an event , for example, when i/o
 > arrives in  the given process...

But what do you want to do?  I suppose you want to show the tab that was
hidden before.  OTOH "show" in your nomenclature meant something
different so far: Do some standard action associated with the tab like
switching buffers or restoring a window configuration.

 >>> 4. The 'close event should kill the *grep* buffer, and the process , if
 >> it
 >>> had not finished yet
 >>>  Could you do this using buttons in toolbar or menubar, as you insist ?
 >> So far I'd only insist that saving and restoring window configurations
 >> should be done with the menubar rather than with a tab.  I never ever
 >> use toolbars but I think that mail handling routines using the toolbar
 >> (could) do such things routinely (inform of new mail, kill a buffer and
 >> remove the associated button when mail has been sent , ...).
 >>
 >>
 > Why do you change the subject of discussion ? saving and restoring window
 > configurations concerns other type of tab, not this one I am talking here.

I referred to the window configuration example because so far that was
the only one where I "insisted" on providing a menubar entry rather than
a tab.  You can't accuse me of insistence with an example you didn't
provide before.  My argument was that the "'close event" for the *grep*
buffer is rather similar to a toolbar button provided by an email
problem which, when hit, causes the currently written mail to get sent
and the associated display area where that mail was shown removed.  I
don't know of any MUA that uses tabs for such a purpose but I don't want
to exclude it.

I also agree that the hourglass functionality of a tab you cited earlier
(that is changing the color of a tab while work like grep searching is
in progress) can be useful, for example, when performing a couple of
grep searches or compilations simultaneously.

martin



  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-02-06 17:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-02-04 22:36 Tabs are ready? -> Let us give a definition of tabs Alin Soare
2012-02-05 10:42 ` martin rudalics
2012-02-05 12:44   ` Alin Soare
2012-02-05 13:17     ` martin rudalics
2012-02-05 13:39       ` Alin Soare
     [not found]         ` <CA+Xtq3U5PkH=m1ZRMMm2LJQ_BHZXc08Vk4TbhNyyFLta+1EkBw@mail.gmail.com>
2012-02-05 13:44           ` Fwd: " Alin Soare
2012-02-05 14:50             ` Alin Soare
2012-02-05 17:56               ` Andy Moreton
2012-02-05 18:51                 ` Drew Adams
2012-02-06  3:35                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-02-05 18:16               ` martin rudalics
2012-02-05 21:33                 ` Alin Soare
2012-02-06 10:35                   ` martin rudalics
2012-02-06 13:21                     ` Alin Soare
2012-02-05 23:56                 ` Alin Soare
2012-02-06 10:36                   ` martin rudalics
2012-02-06 13:34                     ` Alin Soare
2012-02-06 14:46                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-02-06 16:18                         ` Alin Soare
2012-02-06 16:21                           ` Alin Soare
2012-02-06 17:53                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-02-06 22:51                             ` Alin Soare
2012-02-06 22:55                               ` Alin Soare
2012-02-07 16:15                               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-02-09 15:55                               ` PJ Weisberg
2012-02-09 16:11                                 ` Alin Soare
2012-02-09 16:16                                   ` Alin Soare
2012-02-10 19:04                                     ` Alin Soare
2012-02-10 19:08                                       ` Alin Soare
2012-02-11 14:16                                     ` Nix
2012-02-11 14:41                                       ` Alin Soare
2012-02-12 13:40                                         ` Nix
2012-02-12 16:23                                           ` Alin Soare
2012-02-12 18:48                                             ` Alin Soare
2012-02-13  6:06                                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-02-13 12:29                                         ` Nix
2012-02-13 15:53                                           ` Tom Tromey
2012-02-13 16:21                                             ` Nix
2012-02-13 16:30                                               ` Tom Tromey
2012-02-13 18:50                                                 ` Nix
2012-02-15 20:35                                                   ` Tom Tromey
2012-02-15 22:59                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-15 23:03                                                     ` Nix
2012-02-28 15:13                                                       ` Alin Soare
2012-02-28 15:16                                                         ` Alin Soare
2012-02-13 13:24                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-13 13:49                                           ` Nix
2012-02-13 15:20                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2012-02-13 16:21                                               ` Nix
2012-02-06 18:00                         ` martin rudalics
2012-02-06 17:05                       ` martin rudalics [this message]
2012-02-05 18:15         ` martin rudalics
2012-02-05 21:38           ` Alin Soare
2012-02-05 22:30             ` joakim
2012-02-05 22:53               ` Alin Soare
2012-02-06 10:35             ` martin rudalics
2012-02-06 13:25               ` Alin Soare
2012-02-06 17:03                 ` martin rudalics
2012-02-06 19:19                   ` Nix
2012-02-06 19:43                     ` martin rudalics
2012-02-06 19:45                       ` Nix
2012-02-06 19:54                       ` Drew Adams
2012-02-08 23:43                         ` Alin Soare
2012-02-09 11:19                           ` Nix
2012-02-09 13:05                             ` Alin Soare
2012-02-09 13:07                               ` Alin Soare
2012-02-07 15:57                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-02-07 17:15                       ` Nix
2012-02-06 20:05                   ` Alin Soare
2012-02-07 16:03                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-02-06 17:04                 ` martin rudalics

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