From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: martin rudalics Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9723: 24.0.50; Emacs Clipboard crash Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2012 18:24:25 +0100 Message-ID: <4F2D69C9.3000304@gmx.at> References: <83lis391w3.fsf@gnu.org> <81B49A9E5708D84A96259A96D480EE4902D815F95A@CHC-CCR01.SEA.CORP.EXPECN.COM> <83wr8l2y6r.fsf@gnu.org> <81B49A9E5708D84A96259A96D480EE4902D815FA2B@CHC-CCR01.SEA.CORP.EXPECN.COM> <83mx9h2em4.fsf@gnu.org> <81B49A9E5708D84A96259A96D480EE4902D81606FB@CHC-CCR01.SEA.CORP.EXPECN.COM> <81B49A9E5708D84A96259A96D480EE4902E2FD8799@CHC-CCR01.SEA.CORP.EXPECN.COM> <83obtlqabj.fsf@gnu.org> <81B49A9E5708D84A96259A96D480EE4902E2FD8919@CHC-CCR01.SEA.CORP.EXPECN.COM> <83k448riyw.fsf@gnu.org> <81B49A9E5708D84A96259A96D480EE4902E2FD8BCA@CHC-CCR01.SEA.CORP.EXPECN.COM> <8362frrcmz.fsf@gnu.org> <4F2A6EB2.4090708@gmx.at> <83k445p3lg.fsf@gnu.org> <4F2AE27F.6030706@gmx.at> <83k445f0d4.fsf@gnu.org> <4F2C2622.3010807@gmx.at> <83liojenym.fsf@gnu.org> <4F2D390D.6000408@gmx.at> <834nv6el9o.fsf@gnu.org> <4F2D4815.9060600@gmx.at> <8339aqehgb.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1328376330 31567 80.91.229.3 (4 Feb 2012 17:25:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 17:25:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: josejones@expedia.com, 9723@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 04 18:25:29 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RtjMe-00078q-1h for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 04 Feb 2012 18:25:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37374 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RtjMd-00021r-HN for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 04 Feb 2012 12:25:27 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:51793) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RtjMa-00021b-Ba for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Feb 2012 12:25:25 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RtjMZ-0004Hj-4X for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Feb 2012 12:25:24 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:50861) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RtjMZ-0004He-10 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Feb 2012 12:25:23 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RtjNB-0004ss-VD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Feb 2012 12:26:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2012 17:26:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9723 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 9723-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9723.132837631618719 (code B ref 9723); Sat, 04 Feb 2012 17:26:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 9723) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Feb 2012 17:25:16 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54484 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RtjMR-0004rr-Ma for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Feb 2012 12:25:16 -0500 Original-Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([213.165.64.22]:35679) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RtjMO-0004re-TE for 9723@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Feb 2012 12:25:13 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 04 Feb 2012 17:24:27 -0000 Original-Received: from 62-47-48-54.adsl.highway.telekom.at (EHLO [62.47.48.54]) [62.47.48.54] by mail.gmx.net (mp020) with SMTP; 04 Feb 2012 18:24:27 +0100 X-Authenticated: #14592706 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/wW04pZgjwI+sfkjco8G25Q3QxfJJ7P/PpJ+p/vm JbUgaWUIJ2E5Tf In-Reply-To: <8339aqehgb.fsf@gnu.org> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:56480 Archived-At: >> Scrollbars and fringes pertain to Emacs windows, not Emacs frames. What >> sense does it make to count them for frames? > > You need this value to communicate with the window manager and the > toolkit. And that value should include one scroll bar and one pair of > fringes, in addition to text width. Storing that value in a separate > struct member is a convenience device, nothing more. But in change_frame_size_1 we use "this value" to adjust the sizes of Emacs windows. Moreover, why communicate the presence of a scrollbar to the window manager and the toolkit? Suppose I do (set-frame-parameter nil 'vertical-scroll-bars nil) (set-window-scroll-bars nil 16 'right) then my window has scrollbars and the frame doesn't. Confusing. martin