From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated] Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 12:35:00 -0800 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <4F1C72F4.9000005@cs.ucla.edu> References: <4F18A26A.1020402@cs.ucla.edu> <20120120074922.GA3095@acm.acm> <4F1929BA.7020004@cs.ucla.edu> <838vl24thl.fsf@gnu.org> <4F19E7FC.40301@cs.ucla.edu> <83zkdh2zfz.fsf@gnu.org> <4F1BC64D.7080906@cs.ucla.edu> <87k44k5bb0.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <4F1BEAF7.8010003@cs.ucla.edu> <20120122115636.GB3042@acm.acm> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1327264522 32699 80.91.229.12 (22 Jan 2012 20:35:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 20:35:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, ulm@gentoo.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, "Stephen J. Turnbull" , Eli Zaretskii , drew.adams@oracle.com To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 22 21:35:17 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Rp48B-00011b-TZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 21:35:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:32988 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rp48B-0005Gy-8k for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 15:35:15 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:56993) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rp488-0005Gi-75 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 15:35:13 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rp487-0000O1-AJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 15:35:12 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]:35294) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rp484-0000Mu-8J; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 15:35:08 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8EF0A60004; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 12:35:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 99px03gGoOmC; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 12:35:04 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.10] (pool-71-189-109-235.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [71.189.109.235]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7A3F7A60002; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 12:35:04 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 In-Reply-To: <20120122115636.GB3042@acm.acm> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 131.179.128.62 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:147839 Archived-At: On 01/22/2012 03:56 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > I thought we were talking about putting curly quotes into doc strings, > etc, where ordinary users are going to have to deal with them. No, the idea is doc strings would be automatically formatted for the user's display, and that this would use ASCII quotes unless Emacs is on a display that can handle curly quotes. In other words, curly quotes would appear in the Emacs source, but they're not necessarily what the Emacs user would see. I am not proposing that .texi format be changed. There's no need for that, as Texinfo already generates different quoting styles depending on the output technology, and its current input format already suffices. Nor am I worried about people ssh-ing from their cell phone to develop Emacs. If and when that becomes practical, we can fix it for developers, much as we already have a fix for developers who use Linux consoles.