From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated] Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 02:54:47 -0800 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <4F1BEAF7.8010003@cs.ucla.edu> References: <20120118.161204.348826368.wl@gnu.org> <20248.15413.907023.894588@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <4x1uqv4pbx.fsf_-_@fencepost.gnu.org> <056566D61BA5441E860782777E736F44@us.oracle.com> <4F18A26A.1020402@cs.ucla.edu> <20120120074922.GA3095@acm.acm> <4F1929BA.7020004@cs.ucla.edu> <838vl24thl.fsf@gnu.org> <4F19E7FC.40301@cs.ucla.edu> <83zkdh2zfz.fsf@gnu.org> <4F1BC64D.7080906@cs.ucla.edu> <87k44k5bb0.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020202090307030506040501" X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1327229701 8506 80.91.229.12 (22 Jan 2012 10:55:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 10:55:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, ulm@gentoo.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, acm@muc.de, Eli Zaretskii , drew.adams@oracle.com To: "Stephen J. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:147831 Archived-At: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020202090307030506040501 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 01/22/2012 01:36 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > I don't have it on either my Gentoo system or my Debian(!) system It's from a Debian package, introduced in lenny (Debian GNU/Linux 5.0), which was released about three years ago. Here's a URL: http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/console-setup It's a GPLed shell script and is not that complicated -- it's a front end to help out people who don't want to understand Linux consoles (not that I blame them!). If you don't have setupcon, you can try this recipe instead, as its last two commands are what setupcon does, as far as fonts go: export LC_ALL=en_US.utf8 printf '\033%%G' setfont -v /usr/share/consolefonts/Uni2-Fixed16.psf.gz On 01/22/2012 02:22 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Maybe you could give a run through of a hypothetical sequence of steps a > tty user would go through to find out how to set up his console for this Do you have setfont? If so, do the above commands work? I'll attach a copy of the psf.gz file. (You can get its source from the above URL.) > it will be very strenuous for a normal tty user to get set up > to see these curly quotes. OK, but we're not talking about normal tty users. We're talking about the three Emacs developers who use Linux consoles to develop. 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