From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated] Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 00:18:21 -0800 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <4F1BC64D.7080906@cs.ucla.edu> References: <20120118.161204.348826368.wl@gnu.org> <20248.15413.907023.894588@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <4x1uqv4pbx.fsf_-_@fencepost.gnu.org> <056566D61BA5441E860782777E736F44@us.oracle.com> <4F18A26A.1020402@cs.ucla.edu> <20120120074922.GA3095@acm.acm> <4F1929BA.7020004@cs.ucla.edu> <838vl24thl.fsf@gnu.org> <4F19E7FC.40301@cs.ucla.edu> <83zkdh2zfz.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1327220315 22840 80.91.229.12 (22 Jan 2012 08:18:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 08:18:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: acm@muc.de, Eli Zaretskii , ulm@gentoo.org, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 22 09:18:30 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RosdB-0002kZ-5k for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 09:18:29 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50564 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rosd9-000539-Ob for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 03:18:27 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:45182) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rosd7-000532-5J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 03:18:25 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rosd6-0001aS-93 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 03:18:25 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]:41956) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rosd3-0001aG-HK; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 03:18:21 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60471A60007; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 00:18:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2xO6N+yfEr39; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 00:18:17 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.10] (pool-71-189-109-235.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [71.189.109.235]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8E669A60002; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 00:18:17 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 131.179.128.62 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:147828 Archived-At: On 01/21/2012 10:30 PM, Richard Stallman wrote: > I can "deal with" nonascii characters, but some of them look rather ugl= y. > Some of them cause the display to get out of whack, probably due to > mismatch between how wide they really display and how wide Emacs thinks > they are. That shouldn't happen with the quote characters we're talking about, at least, it shouldn't happen on properly-configured platforms that are commonly used today. > Can you please send me a message containing the character proposed for = this? Sure: =E2=80=98foo=E2=80=99 -- directed single quotation marks (U+2018, U+2019) =E2=80=9Cfoo=E2=80=9D -- directed double quotation marks (U+201C, U+201D) If you're running a GNU/Linux distribution that works like Ubuntu, and you're on the Linux console, the following shell commands are meeded to configure the system properly for these characters. export LC_ALL=3Den_US.utf8 setupcon