From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated] Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 00:00:15 -0800 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <4F1BC20F.2010001@cs.ucla.edu> References: <20120118.161204.348826368.wl@gnu.org> <20248.15413.907023.894588@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <4x1uqv4pbx.fsf_-_@fencepost.gnu.org> <056566D61BA5441E860782777E736F44@us.oracle.com> <4F18A26A.1020402@cs.ucla.edu> <20120120074922.GA3095@acm.acm> <4F1929BA.7020004@cs.ucla.edu> <838vl24thl.fsf@gnu.org> <4F19E7FC.40301@cs.ucla.edu> <20120121085905.GA3075@acm.acm> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1327219238 17694 80.91.229.12 (22 Jan 2012 08:00:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 08:00:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , ulm@gentoo.org, drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 22 09:00:33 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RosLp-0007jY-1Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 09:00:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37198 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RosLo-0002Ui-BX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 03:00:32 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:54676) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RosLl-0002US-Fb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 03:00:30 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RosLk-0008VP-GR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 03:00:29 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]:40143) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RosLi-0008VB-JV; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 03:00:26 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D350FA60007; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 00:00:17 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id d19Nu2BcEm2I; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 00:00:16 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.10] (pool-71-189-109-235.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [71.189.109.235]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CFFABA60002; Sun, 22 Jan 2012 00:00:16 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 In-Reply-To: <20120121085905.GA3075@acm.acm> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 131.179.128.62 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:147827 Archived-At: On 01/21/2012 12:59 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Because fewer people are using tty environments (which is > basically what is meant here by "ASCII-only") ... No, by "ASCII-only" I meant displays that can display only ASCII. I use tty environments all the time, and they're never ASCII-only. > I have an ordinary Linux tty, currently running a Latin-1 > character set.... I don't know how to do this, and finding out > is going to be a lot of work. It shouldn't be a lot of work. I don't normally use the Linux console, but I looked into this problem and on my Ubuntu desktop the fix is simple: export LC_ALL=3Den_US.utf8 setupcon After executing these two shell commands, I can see directed quotes =E2=80=98like this=E2=80=99 with no problem, both within Emacs and= when catting to the terminal. If it matters, I'm running Ubuntu 11.10 x86 on a 5-year-old desktop. Does this approach work for you?