From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Daniel Colascione Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: NaCl support for Emacs Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2012 19:01:48 -0800 Message-ID: <4F0BAA1C.5020804@dancol.org> References: <87boqi6tzz.fsf@linux-hvfx.site> <87ehve3ul8.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87lipl22xm.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87boqh20ha.fsf@lifelogs.com> <871urc46c9.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <739bsoysp.fsf@news.eternal-september.org> <87ty47r5yt.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87k452p5u3.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87liphne9e.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> <87fwfon7gl.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87hb04icxl.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87pqesgwnj.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigF785F9065AB9283F32DF2E32" X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1326164529 4601 80.91.229.12 (10 Jan 2012 03:02:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 03:02:09 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 10 04:02:04 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RkRyO-00064U-Ao for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 04:02:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38228 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RkRyN-0002K2-QZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 22:02:03 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:52679) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RkRyK-0002Jt-Sa for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 22:02:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RkRyJ-0003tV-Gw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 22:02:00 -0500 Original-Received: from dancol.org ([96.126.100.184]:34574) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RkRyJ-0003sf-Bh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 22:01:59 -0500 Original-Received: from c-24-18-179-193.hsd1.wa.comcast.net ([24.18.179.193] helo=edith.local) by dancol.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RkRyD-0005Qr-20 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2012 19:01:53 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 In-Reply-To: <87pqesgwnj.fsf@lifelogs.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.4 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 96.126.100.184 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:147544 Archived-At: This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigF785F9065AB9283F32DF2E32 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 1/9/12 5:43 PM, Ted Zlatanov wrote: > SM> I don't think Emacs should reinvent every wheel. GPG does this job= well > SM> and using it means that those files can be decrypted without Emacs.= >=20 > Calling out to an external process is less secure than using built-in > encryption primitives. So while in general you're right, in this case > I'll respectfully disagree. It may be convenient but it's not secure. If an attacker can read the bytes sent over a pipe between your Emacs and its GPG subprocess, you've already lost. I'm not sure what reasonable definition of "secure" you meant to use here. --------------enigF785F9065AB9283F32DF2E32 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iEYEARECAAYFAk8Lqh8ACgkQ17c2LVA10VsQ2QCg5yVihTBY2FtQ54zFbuplpPtH TGAAoMjLh2kSs4L8J3CEuUeJj+qwMPO8 =hqav -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigF785F9065AB9283F32DF2E32--