From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David De La Harpe Golden Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Power: blink-cursor-mode is a pig Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 14:37:11 +0000 Message-ID: <4EFDCC97.2000905@harpegolden.net> References: <4EFCFDCA.6060802@dancol.org> <831urmv30g.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1325255848 3739 80.91.229.12 (30 Dec 2011 14:37:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 14:37:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Daniel Colascione , Emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 30 15:37:22 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RgdaB-00036P-V0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2011 15:37:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58258 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RgdaB-0001ua-D9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2011 09:37:19 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:53815) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rgda8-0001uK-9u for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2011 09:37:17 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rgda7-0006V6-5b for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2011 09:37:16 -0500 Original-Received: from harpegolden.net ([65.99.215.13]:52133) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rgda7-0006Us-2Y; Fri, 30 Dec 2011 09:37:15 -0500 Original-Received: from [87.198.47.210] (87-198-47-210.ptr.magnet.ie [87.198.47.210]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "David De La Harpe Golden", Issuer "David De La Harpe Golden Personal CA rev 3" (verified OK)) by harpegolden.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1126668413; Fri, 30 Dec 2011 14:37:12 +0000 (GMT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.24) Gecko/20111114 Icedove/3.1.16 In-Reply-To: <831urmv30g.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 65.99.215.13 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:147056 Archived-At: On 30/12/11 09:10, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > FWIW, I _hate_ click-to-focus windowing systems. They prevent me from > typing into a partially-obscured window while looking at a window in > the foreground. Strictly, that sounds more like a beef with raise-on-focus, a separate concern from click-to-focus on several window systems, e.g. AmigaOS was click-to-focus but _not_ click-to-raise by default (you could turn on "ClickToFront" if you wanted it), you instead clicked specific titlebar widgets to raise/lower windows (awkward in its own way of course -the widgets could easily be obscured, making raising one window an exercise in lowering others) Various x11 wms permit similar click-to-focus but not click-to-raise configuration, though it's not usually the default (http://nickgravgaard.com/windowlab/ is one where it is). > how to set focus-follows-mouse operation, and then set it up. It's also possible to have focus-follows-mouse with auto-raise (perhaps after further delay), which I assume you'd also find a bit irritating. Anyway, not that it matters much to emacs beyond continuing to avoid any focussed == raised assumption.