From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Daniel Colascione Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] Refactor window-system configuration Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 01:07:00 -0800 Message-ID: <4EFD7F34.3070607@dancol.org> References: <4b98eec4a5f68bfcd9233d5e7444de05873225b4.1325166472.git.dancol@dancol.org> <4EFCE9C4.8050908@dancol.org> <4EFCEE59.7030605@dancol.org> <834nwiv3qc.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigACF2564384B060A03708C88B" X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1325236045 12639 80.91.229.12 (30 Dec 2011 09:07:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 09:07:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Dan Nicolaescu , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 30 10:07:19 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RgYQo-0000Dc-TT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2011 10:07:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39927 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RgYQo-0002Nj-E5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2011 04:07:18 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:48368) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RgYQl-0002NT-Uy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2011 04:07:16 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RgYQk-0002Xx-OL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2011 04:07:15 -0500 Original-Received: from dancol.org ([96.126.100.184]:35820) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RgYQg-0002XS-SY; Fri, 30 Dec 2011 04:07:10 -0500 Original-Received: from c-24-18-179-193.hsd1.wa.comcast.net ([24.18.179.193] helo=[192.168.1.2]) by dancol.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RgYQf-0001Su-S8; Fri, 30 Dec 2011 01:07:09 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 In-Reply-To: <834nwiv3qc.fsf@gnu.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.4 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 96.126.100.184 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:147034 Archived-At: This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigACF2564384B060A03708C88B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 12/30/11 12:54 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Dan Nicolaescu >> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 18:05:44 -0500 >> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org >> >> There's a lot more emacs contributors that are fluent in C than >> contributors fluent with autoconf. Why not cater to the majority? >=20 > I agree. >=20 > Daniel, please keep in mind that at least Windows users normally know > very little about autoconf, and will have difficulty finding their way > around the configure script and its products, and understanding how > and where the value of that constant is computed. >=20 Who exactly do you imagine being confused by a including macro and under what circumstances do you expect this confusion to arise? A quick glance at config.h will reveal what header is being included; any compiler errors will be attributed directly to the correct place. The only people who need to care about the configure machinery are those who add window systems, and I hope these people would be familiar with autoco= nf. I'd really prefer not to have another big list of window systems in the source. --------------enigACF2564384B060A03708C88B Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iEYEARECAAYFAk79fzYACgkQ17c2LVA10VuAlwCfcBndsH6EaPT9/UsXV7CDPSL9 e+8An2ZRrkPn8Su4uIEXSxLtfHb2Q+8t =rk+a -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigACF2564384B060A03708C88B--