From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Annoyingly cautious make rules Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2011 19:55:35 -0800 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <4ED99DB7.1040005@cs.ucla.edu> References: <83ehwnc97k.fsf@gnu.org> <4ED917E2.7020807@cs.ucla.edu> <4ED94331.7030702@cs.ucla.edu> <4ED98EED.5020301@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1322884550 27010 80.91.229.12 (3 Dec 2011 03:55:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 03:55:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Andreas Schwab , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 03 04:55:45 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RWghU-0003kH-Rq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 04:55:45 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53678 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RWghT-0002j7-Tt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Dec 2011 22:55:43 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:38888) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RWghR-0002ir-7M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Dec 2011 22:55:42 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RWghQ-0001rE-Dj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Dec 2011 22:55:41 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]:42385) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RWghO-0001qy-9G; Fri, 02 Dec 2011 22:55:38 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DA17A60004; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 19:55:37 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id t69qUETyzLh0; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 19:55:35 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.10] (pool-71-189-109-235.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [71.189.109.235]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 248AB39E8006; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 19:55:35 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 131.179.128.62 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:146449 Archived-At: On 12/02/11 19:42, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> date afterwards. So either way, the maintainer-mode dependencies >> do not help and are not needed. > > I don't think I can agree with this statement until it gets refined to > more specific dependencies. Here's the complete list of dependencies enabled by maintainer-mode: configure: configure.in aclocal.m4 aclocal.m4: m4/gl-comp.m4 lib/Makefile.in: aclocal.m4 lib/Makefile.am lib/gnulib.mk autogen.sh runs autoreconf, which updates aclocal.m4, configure, and lib/Makefile.in (in that order). So, after autogen.sh is run, the dependencies are already satisfied, and "make" does not need them and they do not help the build process. The autogen/copy_autogen fallback also updates these three files in the same order, so it works like autogen.sh in this respect.