From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Annoyingly cautious make rules Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2011 02:00:06 -0800 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <4ED8A1A6.90203@cs.ucla.edu> References: <4ED6A772.3030101@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1322820018 17698 80.91.229.12 (2 Dec 2011 10:00:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2011 10:00:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 02 11:00:15 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RWPug-0001xc-LS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Dec 2011 11:00:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45747 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RWPug-0002qP-7w for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Dec 2011 05:00:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:53993) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RWPue-0002qH-5J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Dec 2011 05:00:12 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RWPuZ-00005t-LV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Dec 2011 05:00:12 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]:56202) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RWPuZ-0008Vj-Eq; Fri, 02 Dec 2011 05:00:07 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DC4AA60006; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 02:00:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id iPuustGdI13J; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 02:00:04 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.10] (pool-71-189-109-235.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [71.189.109.235]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5F8AEA60004; Fri, 2 Dec 2011 02:00:04 -0800 (PST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111124 Thunderbird/8.0 In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 131.179.128.62 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:146419 Archived-At: On 12/01/11 13:54, Richard Stallman wrote: > Are any of these dependencies the one that caused your problem? > > configure: configure.in aclocal.m4 > > It might have been that one: configure.in was changed. To avoid this problem, you can run 'configure' without specifying the --enable-maintainer-mode option. That's the option that generates the dependency that gave you the problem. I guess the idea is that maintainers typically want to be more cautious. "make bootstrap" enables maintainer mode if it is run in a freshly checked-out source tree, so if you did that you'll also have the problem. I don't know why "make bootstrap" sometimes (but not always) enables maintainer mode; this was introduced in bzr 88802 dated 2008-06-20 but the ChangeLog doesn't say why the maintainer-mode enabling was added. Perhaps "make bootstrap" should not enable maintainer mode. That might prevent the kind of problem that you ran into.