bug#4042: 23.0.94; ftp problem in emacsW32

bug#4042: 23.0.94; ftp problem in emacsW32

[Xah Lee]

am having problems using ftp in emacsW32.

Basically, when i try opening
/ftp:m...@example.org:/httpdocs/

emacs prompt for password, then after i hit Enter, emacs stuck there.
Switching to “*Messages*” shows nothing relevant. Switching to
“*ftp m...@example.org*” shows empty buffer.

any idea how to debug this?

Carbon emacs (emacs22) on my OSX 10.4.* works ok.

GNU Emacs 23.0.94.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.0.6002) of 2009-05-28 on
LENNART-69DE564 (patched)

  Xah
∑ http://xahlee.org/

☄

bug#4042: 23.0.94; ftp problem in emacsW32

[Lennart Borgman]

On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 2:25 AM, Xah Lee<xah@xahlee.org> wrote:
> am having problems using ftp in emacsW32.
>
> Basically, when i try opening
> /ftp:m...@example.org:/httpdocs/
>
> emacs prompt for password, then after i hit Enter, emacs stuck there.
> Switching to “*Messages*” shows nothing relevant. Switching to
> “*ftp m...@example.org*” shows empty buffer.
>
> any idea how to debug this?
>
> Carbon emacs (emacs22) on my OSX 10.4.* works ok.
>
> GNU Emacs 23.0.94.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.0.6002) of 2009-05-28 on
> LENNART-69DE564 (patched)

The patched version of Emacs+EmacsW32 comes with an ftp programs that
has worked better for me than the one included in Windows. I have got
no bug reports on this, but it might be that program that is at fault
here. Or it might be some changes I have made in that part of Emacs.

Could you please first try starting from

   emacs -Q

and reproduce the problem? That will use the ftp program that comes
with Windows.

bug#4042: 23.0.94; ftp problem in emacsW32

[Xah Lee]

Exact same problem with the following emacs version with -Q:

GNU Emacs 23.1.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.0.6002) of 2009-07-29 on SOFT-MJASON

this is a official binary for Windows downloaded from FSF.

Here's OS info:
Windows Vista Home Premium, SP 2.

PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE         x86
PROCESSOR_ARCHITEW6432         AMD64
PROCESSOR_IDENTIFIER           AMD64 Family 16 Model 2 Stepping 3, 
AuthenticAMD
PROCESSOR_LEVEL                16
PROCESSOR_REVISION             0203

(not sure what are the ways to get tech spec of OS or hardware on 
windows...or if these are relevant at all. The above are Windows's env var)

Note: i also have ftp from cygwin installed. I do not know which ftp program 
emacs is interfacing ...

 Xah

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lennart Borgman" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>
To: "Xah Lee" <xah@xahlee.org>; <4042@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 11:34 PM
Subject: Re: bug#4042: 23.0.94; ftp problem in emacsW32


On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 2:25 AM, Xah Lee<xah@xahlee.org> wrote:
> am having problems using ftp in emacsW32.
>
> Basically, when i try opening
> /ftp:m...@example.org:/httpdocs/
>
> emacs prompt for password, then after i hit Enter, emacs stuck there.
> Switching to “*Messages*” shows nothing relevant. Switching to
> “*ftp m...@example.org*” shows empty buffer.
>
> any idea how to debug this?
>
> Carbon emacs (emacs22) on my OSX 10.4.* works ok.
>
> GNU Emacs 23.0.94.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.0.6002) of 2009-05-28 on
> LENNART-69DE564 (patched)

The patched version of Emacs+EmacsW32 comes with an ftp programs that
has worked better for me than the one included in Windows. I have got
no bug reports on this, but it might be that program that is at fault
here. Or it might be some changes I have made in that part of Emacs.

Could you please first try starting from

   emacs -Q

and reproduce the problem? That will use the ftp program that comes
with Windows. 

bug#4042: 23.0.94; ftp problem in emacsW32

[Lennart Borgman]

On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Xah Lee<xah@xahlee.org> wrote:

> Note: i also have ftp from cygwin installed. I do not know which ftp program
> emacs is interfacing ...


You can use executable-find to find out which ftp probram is in
exec-path. But these are of course overriden by explicit path given in
ange-ftp-ftp-program-name.

bug#4042: 23.0.94; ftp problem in emacsW32

[Xah Lee]

Thanks to all and Lennart.

Lennart helped me to have solved the problem.

It turns out, that the ftp program bundled with Windows at
“C:/Windows/system32/ftp.exe”
does not work with emacs. (at least in my case)

The one bundled with emacsW32 at
"C:/Program Files (x86)/Emacs/EmacsW32/gnuwin32/bin/"
made the difference.

Thanks.

overall, maybe this is still a bug for GNU emacs 23 on Windows, since out of 
the box it doesn't work.

  Xah
∑ http://xahlee.org/

☄

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lennart Borgman" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>
To: "Xah Lee" <xah@xahlee.org>
Cc: <4042@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 4:07 AM
Subject: Re: bug#4042: 23.0.94; ftp problem in emacsW32


> On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Xah Lee<xah@xahlee.org> wrote:
>
>> Note: i also have ftp from cygwin installed. I do not know which ftp 
>> program
>> emacs is interfacing ...
>
>
> You can use executable-find to find out which ftp probram is in
> exec-path. But these are of course overriden by explicit path given in
> ange-ftp-ftp-program-name.

bug#4042: 23.0.94; ftp problem in emacsW32

[Michael Albinus]

"Xah Lee" <xah@xahlee.org> writes:

> am having problems using ftp in emacsW32.
>
> Basically, when i try opening
> /ftp:m...@example.org:/httpdocs/
>
> emacs prompt for password, then after i hit Enter, emacs stuck there.
> Switching to “*Messages*” shows nothing relevant. Switching to
> “*ftp m...@example.org*” shows empty buffer.
>
> any idea how to debug this?

Further discussion has shown that the problem was related to the native
ftp client MS Windows ships by default. Using an alternative client
solved the problem.

I've made some tests with Emacs 25.1 on MS Windows 7. The builtin FTP
client seems to work proper.

If nobody objects, I'll close these bug reports in a couple of days.

Best regards, Michael.

bug#4042: 23.0.94; ftp problem in emacsW32

[Michael Albinus]

Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de> writes:

> Further discussion has shown that the problem was related to the native
> ftp client MS Windows ships by default. Using an alternative client
> solved the problem.
>
> I've made some tests with Emacs 25.1 on MS Windows 7. The builtin FTP
> client seems to work proper.
>
> If nobody objects, I'll close these bug reports in a couple of days.

I'm closing the bugs.

Best regards, Michael.