From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Your changes in revision 106240 Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 23:28:23 -0700 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <4EAE4007.7090501@cs.ucla.edu> References: <83d3df8qod.fsf@gnu.org> <4EACBA10.9010007@cs.ucla.edu> <4EACE96E.9070800@cs.ucla.edu> <4EACF996.5000609@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1320042512 14863 80.91.229.12 (31 Oct 2011 06:28:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 06:28:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 31 07:28:28 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RKlMA-00027Z-Oh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 07:28:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57108 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RKlMA-0003ud-71 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 02:28:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:48323) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RKlM7-0003uT-WB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 02:28:24 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RKlM6-0001j1-Ra for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 02:28:23 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]:44354) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RKlM6-0001ix-Gv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 31 Oct 2011 02:28:22 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED6E9A60002; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 23:28:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oJGvLSh+KSQi; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 23:28:21 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.10] (pool-71-189-109-235.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [71.189.109.235]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7FAB7A60001; Sun, 30 Oct 2011 23:28:21 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 131.179.128.62 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:145814 Archived-At: On 10/30/11 01:07, Stefan Monnier wrote: > While it's generally true that we try to do that, > we don't do it at any cost in every single possible case. Yes, avoiding arbitrary limits is a guideline not an absolute goal, and other goals can override it. But in the case we're talking about, avoiding the 32-bit limit is trivial and costs nothing, and cost concerns do not support overriding the guideline in this case. That being said, the length of this discussion suggests that I may have touched a nerve, which was not my intent. I'd rather that we didn't get bogged down on this during the pretest. How about the following idea for moving things forward? I'll stop fixing newly-introduced integer-width issues in the trunk, and instead will fold any such issues into the patch for bug 9874, a patch that won't be applied until after the next release. We can discuss matters further then as needed.