`f' in agenda view

`f' in agenda view

[Dave Abrahams]

It always strikes me as odd that `f' in agenda view moves the item
forward by a day even if that leaves it still in the past.  Typically if
I have an overdue item, I just want to schedule it for today or a
certain number of days in the future, and as it stands it's even a bit
non-obvious when I've finally bumped it up to today if it's a few days
old.  Shouldn't the first `f' on an overdue item schedule it for today?

I'm happy to hack something locally if the group doesn't agree, but
moving things around in the past seems like such a corner case that I
thought maybe this would be a better default behavior.

-- 
Dave Abrahams
BoostPro Computing
http://www.boostpro.com

Re: `f' in agenda view

[John Wiegley]

>>>>> Dave Abrahams <dave@boostpro.com> writes:

> It always strikes me as odd that `f' in agenda view moves the item forward
> by a day even if that leaves it still in the past.  Typically if I have an
> overdue item, I just want to schedule it for today or a certain number of
> days in the future, and as it stands it's even a bit non-obvious when I've
> finally bumped it up to today if it's a few days old.  Shouldn't the first
> `f' on an overdue item schedule it for today?

Just to clarify, by 'f' dave means `org-agenda-date-later'.  I believe he's
using my keybinding for this command...

> I'm happy to hack something locally if the group doesn't agree, but moving
> things around in the past seems like such a corner case that I thought maybe
> this would be a better default behavior.

I agree with Dave here.  'f' on a past-dated item maybe should move it today
on the first press, and then into the future on subsequent presses.

John

`org-agenda-date-later' (was: `f') in agenda view

[Dave Abrahams]

on Tue Oct 04 2011, John Wiegley <jwiegley-AT-gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>> Dave Abrahams <dave@boostpro.com> writes:
>
>
>> It always strikes me as odd that `f' in agenda view moves the item forward
>> by a day even if that leaves it still in the past.  Typically if I have an
>> overdue item, I just want to schedule it for today or a certain number of
>> days in the future, and as it stands it's even a bit non-obvious when I've
>> finally bumped it up to today if it's a few days old.  Shouldn't the first
>> `f' on an overdue item schedule it for today?
>
> Just to clarify, by 'f' dave means `org-agenda-date-later'.  I believe he's
> using my keybinding for this command...

Yeah, I am.  Sorry for the confusion.

-- 
Dave Abrahams
BoostPro Computing
http://www.boostpro.com

Re: `f' in agenda view

[Rainer Stengele]

Am 04.10.2011 23:04, schrieb John Wiegley:
>>>>>> Dave Abrahams <dave@boostpro.com> writes:
> 
>> It always strikes me as odd that `f' in agenda view moves the item forward
>> by a day even if that leaves it still in the past.  Typically if I have an
>> overdue item, I just want to schedule it for today or a certain number of
>> days in the future, and as it stands it's even a bit non-obvious when I've
>> finally bumped it up to today if it's a few days old.  Shouldn't the first
>> `f' on an overdue item schedule it for today?
> 
> Just to clarify, by 'f' dave means `org-agenda-date-later'.  I believe he's
> using my keybinding for this command...
> 
>> I'm happy to hack something locally if the group doesn't agree, but moving
>> things around in the past seems like such a corner case that I thought maybe
>> this would be a better default behavior.
> 
> I agree with Dave here.  'f' on a past-dated item maybe should move it today
> on the first press, and then into the future on subsequent presses.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
+1

Me too I sometimes run into this situation where I just want to shift past-dated items to today.
I never had a use case where I wanted to shift an item from "past" to "past+n-days<today".

Rainer

Re: `f' in agenda view

[Rainer Stengele]

Am 13.10.2011 10:47, schrieb Rainer Stengele:
> Am 04.10.2011 23:04, schrieb John Wiegley:
>>>>>>> Dave Abrahams <dave@boostpro.com> writes:
>>
>>> It always strikes me as odd that `f' in agenda view moves the item forward
>>> by a day even if that leaves it still in the past.  Typically if I have an
>>> overdue item, I just want to schedule it for today or a certain number of
>>> days in the future, and as it stands it's even a bit non-obvious when I've
>>> finally bumped it up to today if it's a few days old.  Shouldn't the first
>>> `f' on an overdue item schedule it for today?
>>
>> Just to clarify, by 'f' dave means `org-agenda-date-later'.  I believe he's
>> using my keybinding for this command...
>>
>>> I'm happy to hack something locally if the group doesn't agree, but moving
>>> things around in the past seems like such a corner case that I thought maybe
>>> this would be a better default behavior.
>>
>> I agree with Dave here.  'f' on a past-dated item maybe should move it today
>> on the first press, and then into the future on subsequent presses.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
> +1
> 
> Me too I sometimes run into this situation where I just want to shift past-dated items to today.
> I never had a use case where I wanted to shift an item from "past" to "past+n-days<today".
> 
> Rainer
> 
> 
Well, as indicated somewhere else a "C-c C-s +1" for shifting to tomorrow or "C-c C-s ."
for shifting to today does exactly what I wanted.
"The power is in the house" already.

Thank you,
Rainer

Re: `f' in agenda view

[Dave Abrahams]

on Thu Oct 13 2011, Rainer Stengele <rainer.stengele-AT-online.de> wrote:

> Am 13.10.2011 10:47, schrieb Rainer Stengele:
>
>> Me too I sometimes run into this situation where I just want to
>> shift past-dated items to today.
>> I never had a use case where I wanted to shift an item from "past" to "past+n-days<today".
>> Rainer
>> 
> Well, as indicated somewhere else a "C-c C-s +1" for shifting to tomorrow or "C-c C-s ."
> for shifting to today does exactly what I wanted.
> "The power is in the house" already.

Yeah, it's just a question of having to think absolutely when you want
to think incrementally.  That's a lot of keystrokes when what I want is
to hit `f' (or something) 3 times to move the items to three days from
now.

-- 
Dave Abrahams
BoostPro Computing
http://www.boostpro.com

Re: `f' in agenda view

[John Wiegley]

>>>>> Dave Abrahams <dave@boostpro.com> writes:

> Yeah, it's just a question of having to think absolutely when you want to
> think incrementally.  That's a lot of keystrokes when what I want is to hit
> `f' (or something) 3 times to move the items to three days from now.

+1.

John

Re: `f' in agenda view

[Rainer Stengele]

Am 13.10.2011 15:59, schrieb Dave Abrahams:
> 
> on Thu Oct 13 2011, Rainer Stengele <rainer.stengele-AT-online.de> wrote:
> 
>> Am 13.10.2011 10:47, schrieb Rainer Stengele:
>>
>>> Me too I sometimes run into this situation where I just want to
>>> shift past-dated items to today.
>>> I never had a use case where I wanted to shift an item from "past" to "past+n-days<today".
>>> Rainer
>>>
>> Well, as indicated somewhere else a "C-c C-s +1" for shifting to tomorrow or "C-c C-s ."
>> for shifting to today does exactly what I wanted.
>> "The power is in the house" already.
> 
> Yeah, it's just a question of having to think absolutely when you want
> to think incrementally.  That's a lot of keystrokes when what I want is
> to hit `f' (or something) 3 times to move the items to three days from
> now.
> 

Having bound
F3 to kmacro-start-macro-or-insert-counter
F4 kmacro-end-or-call-macro

for the first entry in the agenda I want to shift
forward 3 days I enter

F3 C-c C-s +3 <Enter> F4

for each following entry I put point in the line and press F4

for 3 items that makes a total of 8+2=10 keypresses
for 4 items that makes a total of 8+3=11 keypresses
etc.

Best,
Rainer

Re: `f' in agenda view

[Carsten Dominik]

On 13.10.2011, at 10:47, Rainer Stengele wrote:

> Am 04.10.2011 23:04, schrieb John Wiegley:
>>>>>>> Dave Abrahams <dave@boostpro.com> writes:
>> 
>>> It always strikes me as odd that `f' in agenda view moves the item forward
>>> by a day even if that leaves it still in the past.  Typically if I have an
>>> overdue item, I just want to schedule it for today or a certain number of
>>> days in the future, and as it stands it's even a bit non-obvious when I've
>>> finally bumped it up to today if it's a few days old.  Shouldn't the first
>>> `f' on an overdue item schedule it for today?
>> 
>> Just to clarify, by 'f' dave means `org-agenda-date-later'.  I believe he's
>> using my keybinding for this command...
>> 
>>> I'm happy to hack something locally if the group doesn't agree, but moving
>>> things around in the past seems like such a corner case that I thought maybe
>>> this would be a better default behavior.
>> 
>> I agree with Dave here.  'f' on a past-dated item maybe should move it today
>> on the first press, and then into the future on subsequent presses.
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>> 
> +1
> 
> Me too I sometimes run into this situation where I just want to shift past-dated items to today.
> I never had a use case where I wanted to shift an item from "past" to "past+n-days<today".

I think this is all very reasonable, and this is how it works now.

- Carsten