From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Andreas_R=F6hler?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Rethinking count-words-region Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2011 19:58:24 +0200 Message-ID: <4E908F40.3080905@online.de> References: <87vcs0q05l.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <83ty7kfzed.fsf@gnu.org> <874nzk5xvc.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87zkhc4j36.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1318096719 9704 80.91.229.12 (8 Oct 2011 17:58:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 17:58:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 08 19:58:34 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RCbAO-0003cf-65 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2011 19:58:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59646 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RCbAN-0006SM-Ow for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2011 13:58:31 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:44285) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RCbAL-0006SH-DX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2011 13:58:30 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RCbAJ-0002FK-Qk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2011 13:58:29 -0400 Original-Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.17.9]:62533) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RCbAJ-0002F2-DY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Oct 2011 13:58:27 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.178.27] (brln-4d0c355f.pool.mediaWays.net [77.12.53.95]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu0) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MbtcA-1RVuR52ceE-00JXbd; Sat, 08 Oct 2011 19:58:25 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; de; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110920 SUSE/3.1.15 Thunderbird/3.1.15 In-Reply-To: <87zkhc4j36.fsf@stupidchicken.com> X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:S3O4rAHrp/JEMWuCZ8gTnHxlxRUFKAmOwYj2v3FHmeZ mvsY5u0VshHgwHg+oUFnlQG/IfS2wH2ErgmTkVZdSdhwPfs/mm CUkwc9aMPqYNJRQr0tv33np+FCGovSvzLat+523qhEV07ssIWn Mj2huhbEi5kE9KIpznTr8WnsEDxvrhyhvUwUEMJ3V33RhFutOb +A01ZVwdj0x0zUr8xm+VrPwjhMf2z/xBQLCsVhTCnPgLpk4vdM aoww/E5MxRSEEY2GEyd9XffdhI7vGior+DqQZEDdMC45gEX2lw Dxx/mpj7LI1WctdGT6w/FF8/VsQfjuuPkLWhKA6VGd6cDNbv6Q LOlHDScsuLZicI07mt9o= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 212.227.17.9 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:144753 Archived-At: Am 07.10.2011 22:55, schrieb Chong Yidong: > Chong Yidong writes: [ ... ] use-region-p, it counts in the region. This is like ispell-word. > > And I guess we can call these commands count-words-region and > count-words, even if they also provide information about lines and > characters. > > Hi, think that's definitely the wrong path. Its very important to express with command-names what they are doing. If we have a command returning more than one thing, this must be spoken out, not done silently. if you want a combined command, reporting words-lines-chars, name it that, or give an abbreviation wlc while explaining it for example. Suggest to avoid unexpected multitudes, thanks, Andreas