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From: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: larsi@gnus.org, stevey@google.com, 4041@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#4041: 23.0.92; Emacs 23: buffer point is no longer frame-local
Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2011 17:00:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E90659A.5040804@gmx.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83wrcfefmh.fsf@gnu.org>

 > So I don't think switch-to-next/prev-buffer can be a convenient
 > solution to this problem.

Did you try it in practice?  With some convenient binding?  In my
experience, the buffer isn't too far away, usually.

 > What is necessary is a way to switch to a buffer by name and have the
 > window remember its previous window-point.  If the buffer was never
 > displayed in this window, "C-x b" should choose some value of
 > window-point that was used before and is not already displayed in some
 > other window.  (If there's a window for every possible value of
 > window-point for the buffer, i.e. the user opens yet another window
 > with the same buffer, just choose one of the values, e.g., the first
 > or the last.)  For the important use case of having 2 windows with the
 > same buffer, this strategy will do _exactly_ what the user wants.

Using the window-point from some other window will be utterly
disconcerting if you later want to display the buffer in _that_ other
window.  Recording window-points of deleted windows to implement the
"used before" approach might be expensive - these are markers into that
buffer.

 > Yes, but it works satisfactorily only if you switch between 2 buffers
 > in the same window.  Switch to a third, and you are screwed.

Try them.  I have bound `switch-to-prev-buffer' and
`switch-to-next-buffer' to M-left and M-right respectively and use them
all of the time.  Especially, because I usually tend to forget the names
of buffers I'm working on.  When you grow old enough you will eventually
even appreciate that.  Till then try the version of `switch-to-buffer' I
attached to the last mail and tell me whether you really need more.

 > (And, btw, why aren't those 2 functions documented in the user
 > manual?)

Because I haven't looked into that yet.

martin





  reply	other threads:[~2011-10-08 15:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-05  0:17 bug#4041: 23.0.92; Emacs 23: buffer point is no longer frame-local Steve Yegge
2009-08-06  9:33 ` martin rudalics
2011-09-17  7:04 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-09-17  8:43   ` martin rudalics
2011-09-18  8:03     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-10-06 22:14     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-10-07  7:07       ` martin rudalics
2011-10-07 10:46         ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-10-07 17:00           ` martin rudalics
2011-10-07 21:09             ` Steve Yegge
2011-10-08  6:23               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-08  6:32                 ` Drew Adams
2011-10-08  6:23               ` Leo
2011-10-08 13:23               ` martin rudalics
2011-10-08 14:12                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-08 15:00                   ` martin rudalics [this message]
2011-10-08 15:34                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-08 15:55                       ` martin rudalics
2011-10-08 17:07                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-08 17:53                           ` martin rudalics
2011-10-08 20:35                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-09  8:33                               ` martin rudalics
2011-10-09 17:45                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-10 12:57                                   ` martin rudalics
2011-10-11 12:45               ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-12  0:35                 ` Steve Yegge
2011-10-12  1:19                   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-12  3:52                     ` Steve Yegge
2011-10-12  9:48                     ` martin rudalics
2011-10-12 13:11                       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-12 13:39                         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-12 14:25                           ` martin rudalics
2012-10-05 10:08                         ` martin rudalics
2012-10-10 10:22                           ` martin rudalics
2011-10-12  6:52                   ` martin rudalics

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