From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Daniel Colascione Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: `isearch-allow-scroll' - a misnomer and a bad design Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:32:58 -0700 Message-ID: <4E6FF63A.4070604@gmail.com> References: <20110909215255.GD2733@acm.acm> <7002A9DA9A804F0B9F6F251FD3A2B263@us.oracle.com> <20110911103940.GA3246@acm.acm> <3C4B7E318EB04AE4B7DB9FD0E4C67629@us.oracle.com> <20110911173012.GA3088@acm.acm> <20110912093651.GA3249@acm.acm> <20110913142732.GB3081@acm.acm> <7E2EE144B11D413583E1E659CDE15186@us.oracle.com> <8739g0vyuy.fsf@mail.jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigD08588881AA47CFF0148BBFC" X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1315960400 576 80.91.229.12 (14 Sep 2011 00:33:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 00:33:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'Alan Mackenzie' , rms@gnu.org, Drew Adams , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 14 02:33:14 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R3dPd-0008JV-W6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 02:33:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59433 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R3dPd-00068f-Gy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 20:33:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:55481) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R3dPa-00068V-SN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 20:33:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R3dPY-0005Gz-Cv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 20:33:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-yi0-f41.google.com ([209.85.218.41]:53867) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R3dPW-0005Fh-MR; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 20:33:07 -0400 Original-Received: by yia25 with SMTP id 25so427918yia.0 for ; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:33:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type; bh=aOgBDW9ty7ivavu1gG1d2N3riVA+TgKXgM6XIZxx3ic=; b=LkdR9dGf4ypZXGbyAZwFEFStpLjpT5X7/7+RSFtWiL7b7JkeM77mPmiHoVRcgCYFKN T1cWNf2qb5BbUb3jdhO7S39FM7h+murCp9LeE4d0pZEytG8J03FITA0c7Uwx1SSOoBsE jYnkU/mvd7zIAayUEVh5TMizEdwY7PxYaGvJA= Original-Received: by 10.231.50.85 with SMTP id y21mr10238064ibf.72.1315960385218; Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:33:05 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [0.0.0.0] (c-24-18-179-193.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [24.18.179.193]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bk20sm4390778ibb.2.2011.09.13.17.33.02 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:33:03 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902 Thunderbird/6.0.2 In-Reply-To: <8739g0vyuy.fsf@mail.jurta.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.1 OpenPGP: id=5035D15B X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 209.85.218.41 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:144004 Archived-At: This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigD08588881AA47CFF0148BBFC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 9/13/2011 3:52 PM, Juri Linkov wrote: >> Any other arguments wrt the default value? >=20 > Another argument for not exiting isearch with C-u by default > is that some isearch commands accept the C-u argument and change > their behavior accordingly depending on `current-prefix-arg' like > `isearch-yank-char', `isearch-del-char', `isearch-query-replace', > `isearch-query-replace-regexp', `isearch-occur', but currently users > can't use C-u to access their full functionality without customizing > `isearch-allow-scroll' to t. >=20 Also, there are plenty of ways to exit isearch other than C-u. I can't remember ever using C-u to exit isearch, in fact, and if the prefix argument is still applied to any command that _does_ exit isearch, I see no problem changing the default behavior. --------------enigD08588881AA47CFF0148BBFC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (Cygwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk5v9j0ACgkQ17c2LVA10Vt3QgCg1hPX1YPzd8gdoeeaTYN0g7WB QMUAn0p2vT12S4ED+N4hfkkmbdffj5gk =aomE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigD08588881AA47CFF0148BBFC--