From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ken Brown Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Changing the default for `send-mail-function' Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 11:24:54 -0400 Message-ID: <4E3AB9C6.5090001@cornell.edu> References: <4E131B9C.4020806@swipnet.se> <87liwc1k08.fsf@gmail.com> <34F70A20-5300-4F2C-A271-C928F67F27EF@mit.edu> <4E1B16B3.1070209@cornell.edu> <4E386CFC.8030304@cornell.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1312471529 15168 80.91.229.12 (4 Aug 2011 15:25:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 15:25:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen , "emacs-devel@gnu.org" To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 04 17:25:22 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QoznW-0003ix-9y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 17:25:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44070 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QoznQ-0006cD-EC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 11:25:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:38951) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QoznN-0006bI-2Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 11:25:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QoznM-0002ab-8h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 11:25:13 -0400 Original-Received: from granite1.mail.cornell.edu ([128.253.83.141]:42137 helo=authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QoznM-0002Xm-5J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2011 11:25:12 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.1.4] (cpe-67-249-194-47.twcny.res.rr.com [67.249.194.47]) (authenticated bits=0) by authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.12.10) with ESMTP id p74FP3dt008578 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 4 Aug 2011 11:25:04 -0400 (EDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Thunderbird/3.1.11 In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Solaris 9 X-Received-From: 128.253.83.141 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:142875 Archived-At: On 8/2/2011 9:20 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: >>>> I guess it works on other systems, too? If sendmail can't be found, >>>> then perhaps defaulting to mailclient in the `n' case would be a good >>>> default on all systems? >>> I'm not sure if the feature freeze would prevent this change from >>> being made, but I'm sending this as a reminder in case you've >>> forgotten about it. > > Thanks, yes it's something we want to do. Good. There's still the question of exactly what sendmail-query-once should do. I think it should query all users who haven't already set up smtpmail. And, when it queries, mailclient should always be one of the choices, even if sendmail exists. After all, there's no reason for emacs to assume that a user prefers sendmail to mailclient. In fact, many users might not even be aware that mailclient is an option. Ken