From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Daniel Colascione Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] system-type cygwin with window-system w32 Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:24:02 -0700 Message-ID: <4E24B282.209@gmail.com> References: <4E2377E2.1020804@gmail.com> <4E23DA4A.1080301@gmail.com> <4E23FFB4.1040809@gmail.com> <4E240FC5.3050509@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig41BD578A56738B2911C16C6B" X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1311027873 18738 80.91.229.12 (18 Jul 2011 22:24:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 22:24:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 19 00:24:29 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QiwEm-0005bL-PG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 00:24:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46022 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QiwEl-0002uW-NN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 18:24:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:39867) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QiwEY-0002uJ-9Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 18:24:15 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QiwEX-0000X4-3R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 18:24:14 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pv0-f169.google.com ([74.125.83.169]:61973) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QiwET-0000WA-GB; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 18:24:09 -0400 Original-Received: by pvc12 with SMTP id 12so4078688pvc.0 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:24:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:openpgp:content-type; bh=1szjDxRTHKtXih5g3TmM/JXNeioKmWNjV8RdH6abLC8=; b=V+lx9v4AD0idveoqp4SbAWkqv0tr74uDKn3Gb7/9U+5AenE+XB1r1/kuBAJzuE1GgH MxzG6KI6OoaznlRW93nItdsYrAo7ACdLscPhyZSuVtaZN20VPNpGRB1dl0/h6i/VqoOD j1mHjD3cYuK07Q3NcpVYDm4DN+odjkoLMneAc= Original-Received: by 10.68.10.4 with SMTP id e4mr8444683pbb.319.1311027847936; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:24:07 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [0.0.0.0] (c-24-18-179-193.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [24.18.179.193]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q2sm261050pbj.51.2011.07.18.15.24.06 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:24:07 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.2 OpenPGP: id=5035D15B X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 74.125.83.169 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:142142 Archived-At: This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig41BD578A56738B2911C16C6B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 7/18/2011 3:08 PM, Richard Stallman wrote: > I don't recall that discussion. Can we reopen it? According to [1= ], > Windows 98 has a market share of 0.03%. >=20 > That must be hundreds of thousands of people. ~300,000 if we assume 1 billion people worldwide. That's still miniscule in proportion --- and of those 300,000, how many are savvy enough to be Emacs users? If there _are_ any remaining Windows 9X Emacs users, dropping 9X support will be doing them a favor: using an OS that doesn't receive security updates is terribly dangerous. Besides, they'll always have Emacs 24 and below. > We should not be in a hurry to delete code that is already in Emacs > and might be useful for someone. The code will always be there in the version control history. On 7/18/2011 3:08 PM, Richard Stallman wrote: > What is meant by "going all Unicode"? That sounds like a drastic > change. Not really --- Each Windows API comes in two versions: an "ANSI" one that accepts strings using legacy character encoding and a "Unicode" one that accepts UTF-16LE strings. 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