From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Daniel Colascione Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] system-type cygwin with window-system w32 Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 02:41:08 -0700 Message-ID: <4E23FFB4.1040809@gmail.com> References: <4E2377E2.1020804@gmail.com> <4E23DA4A.1080301@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigC43FFD4F3106C4A27A20390B" X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1310982800 22960 80.91.229.12 (18 Jul 2011 09:53:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 09:53:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 18 11:53:15 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QikVm-0004Iu-TE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 11:53:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46967 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QikVl-0000iD-QA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 05:53:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:46446) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QikKJ-0005sS-IP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 05:41:25 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QikKH-0006Wp-Bo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 05:41:23 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-iw0-f169.google.com ([209.85.214.169]:55916) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QikKC-0006US-U2; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 05:41:17 -0400 Original-Received: by iwn8 with SMTP id 8so3192262iwn.0 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 02:41:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type; bh=op2LxycOKc7NNrPjotASfvZI9XNBid92A5Aun16uCgA=; b=K/LF9JIeWAcx8wuVewj3mX7XIZJCVxNASEc6ZMzLJkKCMdCoOC7MCW/hxFIiptpgV9 S0IJwuIr7Yh4srGKGj35q2+nnlB+rgCz5VKrRnL7odfv7bKc/6dUCQOE1G55Y1BiCiDF 1GQ5yzNmbtaLZ1RZLwOver1wGihOHnUc+bABc= Original-Received: by 10.42.161.7 with SMTP id r7mr6854548icx.202.1310982075446; Mon, 18 Jul 2011 02:41:15 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.2] (c-24-18-179-193.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [24.18.179.193]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a9sm4757794icy.18.2011.07.18.02.41.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 18 Jul 2011 02:41:14 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.2 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 209.85.214.169 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:142095 Archived-At: This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigC43FFD4F3106C4A27A20390B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 7/18/11 2:04 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Yes, the change would make Emacs Unicode-only --- but every Windows OS= >> in common use supports unicode. Why would requiring unicode support b= e >> a problem? >=20 > Two reasons: (1) we still support running Emacs on Windows 9X, where > the Unicode file APIs are (AFAIK) not supported, even if unicows.dll > is installed The 9X family is long dead. There's no vendor or driver support; I don't know how I would even go about testing 9X support. We shouldn't forgo technical improvement on the account of a dead system. > and (2) going Unicode means that all the existing APIs > used by Emacs will have to be switched to Unicode.=20 Why not do it piecemeal? We can directly call Unicode APIs where appropriate. --------------enigC43FFD4F3106C4A27A20390B Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAk4j/7gACgkQ17c2LVA10VvsiwCgjbMDHmpQrTy2JoBURUJ+QF6b iNEAoI5SdiMNSYM8dWYIo1KUICl9G+zY =T/gi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigC43FFD4F3106C4A27A20390B--