From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan_Dj=E4rv?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: gtk scroll bar: upstream bug report Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:54:52 +0200 Message-ID: <4E1C6E4C.6080405@swipnet.se> References: <4E19DD79.3030309@swipnet.se> <87fwmd2qo4.fsf@pobox.com> <4E1ACE25.5090000@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1310492224 31615 80.91.229.12 (12 Jul 2011 17:37:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:37:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 12 19:36:57 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QggtE-0002mK-Dn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 19:36:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37122 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QggtD-0002OE-2p for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 13:36:55 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:58676) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QgfIf-0000sD-8f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 11:55:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QgfIZ-0003ME-CX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 11:55:04 -0400 Original-Received: from smtprelay-b12.telenor.se ([62.127.194.21]:44110) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QgfIY-0003Kc-Re; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 11:54:59 -0400 Original-Received: from ipb3.telenor.se (ipb3.telenor.se [195.54.127.166]) by smtprelay-b12.telenor.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EED9EA063; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:54:53 +0200 (CEST) X-SENDER-IP: [85.225.45.26] X-LISTENER: [smtp.bredband.net] X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ar9pAOxtHE5V4S0aPGdsb2JhbABTiQ6eIQsBAQEBNzKIfMIjhjoEl1uLTg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,521,1304287200"; d="scan'208";a="28748517" Original-Received: from c-1a2de155.25-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) ([85.225.45.26]) by ipb3.telenor.se with ESMTP; 12 Jul 2011 17:54:53 +0200 Original-Received: from [172.20.199.13] (zeplin [172.20.199.13]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A3E6A7FA05A; Tue, 12 Jul 2011 17:54:52 +0200 (CEST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 62.127.194.21 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:141981 Archived-At: Miles Bader skrev 2011-07-12 11.04: > Richard Riley writes: >>> I got the impression that scrollbars is even further away from the >>> Emacs model nowdays. The minimum size requirement for the scroll >>> bar thumb is more common with new fancy themes. The Emacs model is >>> simply incompatible. >> >> How is it incompatible? There were many positive suggestions in that >> old thread. > > Certainly the impression I got from the old discussions was that it > wasn't so much that it was _difficult_ to support the Emacs model, but > rather that they wanted to _prevent_ apps from using such a model > because they thought it was bad (for the user?). I think they want applications to behave the same, and the Emacs model is late to the game (for Gtk+). So there is little reason to switch. Jan D.