From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#8940: Evidence of bug in `random' Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2011 01:15:30 -0700 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <4E180E22.8010901@cs.ucla.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1310199390 23785 80.91.229.12 (9 Jul 2011 08:16:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 08:16:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 8940-done@debbugs.gnu.org To: Rafael D Sorkin Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 09 10:16:26 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QfSi5-0002eA-PE for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2011 10:16:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53346 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QfSi4-0005op-LN for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2011 04:16:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:38852) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QfShn-0005oe-Ac for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2011 04:16:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QfShm-000215-CI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2011 04:16:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:45842) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QfShm-000211-8B for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2011 04:16:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QfShm-00089B-48 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2011 04:16:02 -0400 In-Reply-To: Resent-From: Paul Eggert Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2011 08:16:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: cc-closed 8940 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Mail-Followup-To: 8940@debbugs.gnu.org, eggert@cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: via spool by 8940-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D8940.131019934631289 (code D ref 8940); Sat, 09 Jul 2011 08:16:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 8940-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Jul 2011 08:15:46 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QfShV-00088c-C4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2011 04:15:45 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QfShT-00088M-5m for 8940-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 09 Jul 2011 04:15:44 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id F211939E8119; Sat, 9 Jul 2011 01:15:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lefQL6RyEHXu; Sat, 9 Jul 2011 01:15:36 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.10] (pool-71-189-109-235.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [71.189.109.235]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4F4EE39E80F2; Sat, 9 Jul 2011 01:15:36 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110516 Thunderbird/3.1.10 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2011 04:16:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:48317 Archived-At: Thanks for that bug report. Recently, I independently found severe nonrandomness in 'random' and installed a patch in the Emacs trunk as bzr 104596 . This patch should appear in the next major release of Emacs. Please give the patch a try. It may not be as good as the Mersenne twister etc., but it should be as good as Emacs 22 was. I'll mark this bug report as 'done' for now, but we can reopen it if the patch doesn't fix your problem.