Re: [emacs-w3m:11603] Re: interactive-p obsolete

["Andreas Röhler" <andreas.roehler@online.de>]

Am 06.07.2011 09:09, schrieb Tim Cross:
> I don't believe the argument of not being able to use the new function
> because of the need for backwards compatibility is valid. You can
> solve this problem in a number of ways and maintain backwards
> compatibility. In fact, its not uncommon to have to do this or that
> different from wanting to maintain compatibility with emacs and xemcas
> etc. If there is some other argument for not making the change, I'd be
> interested in hearing it.
>
> Tim

Hi Tim,

from my perspective --which might miss the point anyway-- exist several 
reasons for reverting the change.

First: what is the gain? IMHO new function is more difficult to use, 
slows down writing, needs more reflection than the old one.

So to say: some classic over-specification.
We must not differentiate here, better a simple one-for-all-function not 
bothering for specific argument: just interactive-p

Alltogether new design evens doesn't deliver the basics needed, saying:

"This function is meant for implementing advice and other
function-modifying features.  Instead of using this, it is sometimes
cleaner to give your function an extra optional argument whose
`interactive' spec specifies non-nil unconditionally ("p" is a good
way to do this), or via (not (or executing-kbd-macro noninteractive))."

: hodge-podge

Andreas




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> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Andreas Röhler
> <andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de>  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> making `interactive-p' obsolete, does this change pay?
>>
>> I'm in favour of keeping interactive-p, resp. undoing that change.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Andreas
>>
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>> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>> Betreff: [emacs-w3m:11603] Re: interactive-p obsolete
>> Datum: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 12:58:03 +0900
>> Von: Katsumi Yamaoka<yamaoka@jpl.org>
>> Antwort an: jidanni@jidanni.org, emacs-w3m@namazu.org
>> Organisation: Emacsen advocacy group
>> An: jidanni@jidanni.org
>> CC: emacs-w3m@namazu.org
>>
>> In [emacs-w3m : No.11600] jidanni@jidanni.org wrote:
>>>
>>> On (info "(emacs-w3m) Gnus") we are told to use
>>>   (if (interactive-p)
>>> However
>>>   This function is obsolete since 23.2;
>>>   use `called-interactively-p' instead.
>>> Please update the paragraph and tell us what you used. Thanks.
>>
>> We cannot use `called-interactively-p', otherwise emacs-w3m won't
>> work with old Emacsen.  Some Lisp packages, even in the Emacs trunk,
>> still use `interactive-p' for the same reason.
>>
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