From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?B?QW5kcmVhcyBSw7ZobGVy?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: abbrev_defs encoding issues Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2011 19:40:58 +0200 Message-ID: <4DED112A.9040905@online.de> References: <4DECB91E.9070904@online.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1307391534 5659 80.91.229.12 (6 Jun 2011 20:18:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 20:18:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs developers To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 06 22:18:50 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QTgG9-0005JA-Nw for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Jun 2011 22:18:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49579 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QTgG8-000694-Gu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Jun 2011 16:18:48 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:40588) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QTdna-0006iZ-4r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jun 2011 13:41:11 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QTdnY-0002BT-Jw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jun 2011 13:41:09 -0400 Original-Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.17.9]:65171) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QTdnX-0002BH-Tk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jun 2011 13:41:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.178.27] (brln-4db9f6fb.pool.mediaWays.net [77.185.246.251]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu2) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LtS7s-1PTBs33H2y-010rhZ; Mon, 06 Jun 2011 19:41:04 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; de; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 SUSE/3.1.10 Thunderbird/3.1.10 In-Reply-To: X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:S5Pw0bV3EVS8V/LsiMBecfVI2gUES5Z2yhx9oM2VUyN ag3JnLvwoa9uLDVpV8ZTumficpS7UyR72381l2RRUKfRf5dzhc 8CLfHsJh/HioFzWLqhkSh2RqvI/B+9Sjc9ocFikNgHalwfDETt 7lKrIjM/Os4jIyziahHEggjhMY/b4d/epWPfmFUenXsKlB6UGr iGY6y6rBcJCfGJhNParuiJehH3QeNQ40UyIILvjtsE= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 212.227.17.9 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:140238 Archived-At: Am 06.06.2011 18:34, schrieb Stefan Monnier: >> when using Emacs 24.. and Emacs 23.. series parallel or >> consecutive, I'm running into trouble due to different >> encoding for ~/.abbrev_defs - 23 uses emacs-mule, while 24 uses utf-8. > > Care to tell us what kind of trouble you bump into? > > > Stefan > if an .abbrev_def is saved from v24, which has been edited from v23 before, all german umlauts gets destroyed for example: (the corresponding upper part gets displayed further below in the diff) < ("ürr" "Überraschung" nil 0) < ("üs" "überaus" nil 0) < ("ütr" "Übertragung" nil 0) < ("ütre" "übertreiben" nil 0) < ("ütro" "übertroffen" nil 0) < ("ütt" "erschüttert" nil 0) < ("üu" "Übung" nil 0) < ("üz" "Überzeugung" nil 0) < ("üzd" "überzeugend" nil 0) < ("üzn" "Überzeugungen" nil 0) < ("üzt" "überzeugt" nil 0) --- > ("��" "da��" nil 0) > ("��h" "Mi��handlung" nil 0) > ("��dt" "��nderte" nil 0) > ("��g" "��gypten" nil 0) > ("��ge" "��gyptische" nil 0) > ("��gen" "��gyptischen" nil 0) > ("��n" "ausl��ndischen" nil 0) > ("��nd" "��nderungen" nil 0) > ("��r" "��lter" nil 0) > ("��u��" "��u��erung" nil 0) > ("��u\201\337" "��u\201\337erung" nil 0) > ("����" "��u��erten" nil 0) > ("��\201\337" "��u\201\337erten" nil 0)