From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?B?SmFuIERqw6Rydg==?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: just-the-text Emacs frame Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2011 11:34:35 +0200 Message-ID: <4DEC9F2B.1000203@swipnet.se> References: <87aaebbndz.fsf@lifelogs.com> <4DDDA5A7.6040109@siege-engine.com> <87boyp5vyi.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87mxi8xq6y.fsf@lifelogs.com> <874o4ebtq0.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> <87vcwpsa6y.fsf@lifelogs.com> <871uzccr2k.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87lixji1mz.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87r57beyqk.fsf@lifelogs.com> <4DE90C32.7090105@swipnet.se> <871uzag6js.fsf@lifelogs.com> <4DE9228A.1010504@swipnet.se> <4DEC9C9C.2010001@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1307352910 8952 80.91.229.12 (6 Jun 2011 09:35:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 09:35:10 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 06 11:35:06 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QTWD6-0001AA-Oy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Jun 2011 11:35:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48354 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QTWD5-0008Gs-RV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Jun 2011 05:35:00 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:37238) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QTWCm-0008GQ-R3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jun 2011 05:34:42 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QTWCk-0003fx-VR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jun 2011 05:34:40 -0400 Original-Received: from smtprelay-b22.telenor.se ([195.54.99.213]:35499) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QTWCk-0003fj-DF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Jun 2011 05:34:38 -0400 Original-Received: from ipb1.telenor.se (ipb1.telenor.se [195.54.127.164]) by smtprelay-b22.telenor.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25926EA0DE for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 11:34:35 +0200 (CEST) X-SENDER-IP: [85.225.45.100] X-LISTENER: [smtp.bredband.net] X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvWMABqe7E1V4S1kPGdsb2JhbABThEqESI8Jjh4LAQEBATcyukmQF4Erg2yBCgSVQYp0 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,325,1304287200"; d="scan'208";a="196898321" Original-Received: from c-642de155.25-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se (HELO coolsville.localdomain) ([85.225.45.100]) by ipb1.telenor.se with ESMTP; 06 Jun 2011 11:34:35 +0200 Original-Received: from [172.20.199.13] (zeplin [172.20.199.13]) by coolsville.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 36A117FA05A for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2011 11:34:35 +0200 (CEST) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; sv-SE; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 In-Reply-To: <4DEC9C9C.2010001@swipnet.se> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 195.54.99.213 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:140225 Archived-At: On further testing, what I saw was just the application of struts which w= as=20 confusing. Ignore my comment about this. Jan D. Jan Dj=C3=A4rv skrev 2011-06-06 11.23: > > > Julien Danjou skrev 2011-06-06 10.38: >> On Fri, Jun 03 2011, Jan Dj=C3=A4rv wrote: >> >>> This might not behave as you wish. Some window managers (metacity at = least) >>> apply struts to all windows made by an application if one window has = struts >>> set. For Emacs that would mean that if you set struts on one frame, i= t >>> applies to all frames. >> >> I don't believe you. That sounds like an extra amount of code to write >> that would break EWMH explicitely. Quickly reading Metacity source cod= e >> makes me believe that you're wrong too. >> >> (Now, I don't have time to find/write an app to check that, so, one of >> us is wrong! :-) >> > > I tried this with Emacs and it does behave the way I described. If it i= s a > metacity bug or not, I don't know. > > Jan D.