From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andreas_R=F6hler?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.python-mode Subject: Re: [Python-mode] python.el cleanup Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 20:55:12 +0200 Message-ID: <4D98C290.60205@online.de> References: <86ipv28xk5.fsf@gmail.com> <86pqp971rz.fsf@gmail.com> <4D9339C3.7070104@online.de> <4D98B236.40906@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1301856494 19663 80.91.229.12 (3 Apr 2011 18:48:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 18:48:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Christoph , Barry Warsaw , python-mode@python.org To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 03 20:48:10 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6SLJ-00072a-Do for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 20:48:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45107 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q6SLI-0001De-Sn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 14:48:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=44072 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q6SLD-0001BX-MX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 14:48:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6SLC-0000U3-I9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 14:48:03 -0400 Original-Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.17.9]:52230) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q6SLC-0000Sz-3s for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 14:48:02 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.178.29] (brln-4d0c1959.pool.mediaWays.net [77.12.25.89]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mreu1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MWfQV-1QR4f01thz-00Y3aq; Sun, 03 Apr 2011 20:47:58 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; de; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 In-Reply-To: <4D98B236.40906@gmail.com> X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:RhQla58vkT6ItWRLOMsNz1Ig6AVNmMYioy3BrS6/j+b Fe8HI0zt9Gi+Z2SXMEqHZKbgoLTkAH7NgTchGmN6BE9t1PBGcj KfTy+x3jnOSxzGSceN0tQ6SJqEb2qfe7j+oWZ7F4avz0hdSm8p sI82eSujJA9Y8jBMlqTahOB2ZBMIeoXt4j/NF+CI7Ado7JiZ4q QCu4zcHOClueWs/nUqtEMWaPUi6UL51zo/wSxyAYIE= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 212.227.17.9 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:138091 gmane.emacs.python-mode:715 Archived-At: Am 03.04.2011 19:45, schrieb Christoph Scholtes: > Hi Andreas, > > On 3/30/2011 8:10 AM, Andreas Röhler wrote: > >> glad to see Emacs python facilities improve. As you mention >> python-mode.el, there are some remarks in python.el which I feel are not >> correct. If some solution predates historically another, there are >> usually some setbacks from being the first. > > I am not sure which remarks you are referring to here. Hi Christoph, reading for example: ;; That isn't covered by an FSF copyright assignment (?), unlike this ;; code, and seems not to be well-maintained for Emacs (though I've ;; submitted fixes). > >> OTOH from my perspective python-mode.el has still some point in >> proceding. > > I don't think anybody is saying otherwise. > >> Hopefully we may discuss the pro and cons to the benefit of users, which >> flavour they may choose finally. As you might have been remarked, its >> interwoven to an extend, you can seldom discern it clearly to the one or >> other origin. > > To me, it really doesn't matter where it originated from or who was > first. If it works great, great, if it does not, let's improve it. The > goal should be the best Python support for Emacs possible. > >> BTW I'm not blaming the GNU's side. Just wanted to point at the issue so >> we might hopefully reduce the obstacles. > > Here, I am also not sure what issue or obstacles you are referring to. > Assume people will rather not be inclined to send bug reports, resp. fixes, if feeling quitted with remarks telling their own baby not being well maintained. That I would call an obstacle. Andreas > Christoph > >