From: Daniel Colascione <dan.colascione@gmail.com>
To: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: lexbind: how to replace lexical-let approach to hide secrets
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 15:29:12 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D93AEB8.5020605@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874o6kclw4.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>
On 3/30/2011 2:56 PM, David Kastrup wrote:
> Stefan Monnier<monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>
>> When lexical-binding is set:
>>
>> (let ((data "my secret"))
>> (lambda () data))
>>
>> returns something like (closure ((data . "my secret") t) () data).
>> If you wan to hide the value, then use:
>>
>> (let ((data (let ((sym (make-symbol "foo")))
>> (set sym "secret")
>> sym)))
>> (lambda () (symbol-value data)))
>>
>> which is similar to the what lexical-let ends up doing.
>
> All of which, by necessity, contain the necessary material to get at the
> secret in the bytecode/closure/funcell. Where, of course, it is
> reasonable easy to retrieve it. And that is actually overkill, since
> you can always just call that closure.
>
> Anybody care to tell me what the point of this exercise is actually
> supposed to be?
The idea is to prevent secrets being accidentally revealed in
backtraces, lisp evaluation results, and so on.
By the way: I didn't notice any secret erasure code in auth-source.el.
Shouldn't someone somewhere do something like this? I didn't see
anything in alloc.c that looks like it'd clear an object's bytes upon
deallocation.
(defun secure-erase-secret (my-secret)
(dotimes (i (length my-secret)) (setf (aref my-secret i) 0)))
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-03-30 22:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-03-29 21:44 lexbind ready for merge Stefan Monnier
2011-03-29 23:43 ` Daniel Colascione
2011-03-30 1:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-30 4:10 ` Daniel Colascione
2011-03-30 11:35 ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-30 13:24 ` lexbind: how to replace lexical-let approach to hide secrets (was: lexbind ready for merge) Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-30 21:12 ` lexbind: how to replace lexical-let approach to hide secrets Stefan Monnier
2011-03-30 21:56 ` David Kastrup
2011-03-30 22:29 ` Daniel Colascione [this message]
2011-03-31 15:42 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-01 1:31 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-04-01 4:41 ` secret strings (was: lexbind: how to replace lexical-let approach to hide secrets) Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-01 5:52 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-04-01 11:02 ` secret strings Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-01 14:38 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-04-01 15:12 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-01 16:14 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-04-01 20:08 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-01 20:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-04-01 21:25 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-01 14:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-30 15:09 ` lexbind ready for merge Daniel Colascione
2011-03-30 15:20 ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-30 14:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-30 7:28 ` Tassilo Horn
2011-03-30 11:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-30 13:10 ` Tassilo Horn
2011-03-30 13:17 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-30 14:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-30 14:54 ` Tassilo Horn
2011-03-31 1:02 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-03-30 16:11 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-03-30 17:10 ` Tassilo Horn
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