From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A better autogen.sh Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 02:23:09 -0700 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <4D80817D.2070805@cs.ucla.edu> References: <87y66fv2d3.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87r5c7jk5m.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4D39EF9C.1050804@cs.ucla.edu> <4D3A8666.4070609@cs.ucla.edu> <877hdvd49f.fsf@meyering.net> <83mxmrzhb6.fsf@gnu.org> <4D3C9C5B.8050303@cs.ucla.edu> <4D7FDFB0.6020203@cs.ucla.edu> <4D7FEF16.7040107@cs.ucla.edu> <8362rjr9po.fsf@gnu.org> <4hk4fzsnv8.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1300267469 8780 80.91.229.12 (16 Mar 2011 09:24:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 09:24:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 16 10:24:25 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pzmxs-00060Q-Di for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 10:24:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49684 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Pzmxq-0001zQ-Fr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 05:24:22 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=58973 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Pzmwp-0001Pr-AE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 05:23:20 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Pzmwn-00059Z-S5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 05:23:18 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.62]:60658) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Pzmwj-00058V-21; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 05:23:13 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A61139E810E; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 02:23:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at smtp.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from smtp.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4l7vPu6eG8pV; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 02:23:10 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.10] (pool-71-189-109-235.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [71.189.109.235]) by smtp.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 39B2E39E80F2; Wed, 16 Mar 2011 02:23:10 -0700 (PDT) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.14) Gecko/20110223 Thunderbird/3.1.8 In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 131.179.128.62 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:137272 Archived-At: On 03/16/2011 01:47 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > The trouble is, we keep requiring newer versions of autoconf from time > to time, and later more frequently than in the past. Experience shows > that upgrading autoconf on fencepost involves asking GNU sysadmins to > do that, which takes a non-trivial amount of time and sometimes > repeated pinging. That may have been a problem in the past, but it's not a problem now, because fencepost's /usr/bin/autoconf is Autoconf 2.65, which is good enough for Emacs. In the long run I don't expect this to be a major issue, but if I'm wrong, I can volunteer to keep good-enough versions of automake and autoconf installed on fencepost, under ~eggert/bin say, and that will be enough to get it to work.